vetinari (u/vetinari)

vetinari commented on What's Next for WebGPU developer.chrome.com/blog... · Posted by u/mariuz

nox101 · 9 months ago

My guess is when someone one who cares about Linux submits a pull request to support it.

vetinari · 9 months ago

So that's how it worked with MacOS and Windows? Color me surprised.

But bth, Google doesn't seem to care about Android either. Chrome supports it on Snapdragons and that's it. Do you have Xclipse GPU? Like, I don't know, Samsung's current flagship line Galaxy S24 does? Too bad, not good enough.

vetinari commented on Apple Confirms Zero-Day Attacks Hitting macOS Systems securityweek.com/apple-co... · Posted by u/fortran77

danieldk · 9 months ago

I love Linux, but this is really a cheap shot. Out of the box, desktop security is much better on the Mac. Slim boot ROM in place of UEFI (which can be backdoored), no always-running Intel ME/AMD PSP, fully verified boot chain, sealed system volumes, heavy use of a secure enclave to protect secrets, mandatory sandboxing for App Store apps, malware checks through XProtect, limited access of apps to key folders (Desktop, Documents, iCloud Drive), limited access to privacy-sensitive devices (camera, mic), etc.

Linux will get there, but currently macOS is much more secure as a desktop.

vetinari · 9 months ago

Half of the stuff you names is security from you, not security for you.

vetinari commented on Apple Confirms Zero-Day Attacks Hitting macOS Systems securityweek.com/apple-co... · Posted by u/fortran77

fn-mote · 9 months ago

What software are you talking about?

Who is forcing you to upgrade?

For that matter, what hardware?

I run an old Intel Mac and it’s perfectly reasonable for casual work. I’m not paying for stuff like Adobe leases though.

vetinari · 9 months ago

What exactly is an old Intel mac and what is a casual work?

For example, I have 2015 macbook pro. The last macos release for it is Monterey. Even brew has problems with that, erroring out when installing packages like libpng and complaining, that I should upgrade xcode cli tools. Which I can't.

vetinari commented on Apple Confirms Zero-Day Attacks Hitting macOS Systems securityweek.com/apple-co... · Posted by u/fortran77

wannacboatmovie · 9 months ago

Ok, but this is an Apples vs oranges comparison. (Carlos!)

We are talking about software support here.

The vintage products list is specifically targeting hardware support; e.g. how long Apple will keep spare parts in stock. After a set number of years they purge stock and you are SOL going to Chinese third party vendors and places like iFixit for batteries etc.

vetinari · 9 months ago

Not really; vintage macs turning obsolete are being dropped from the macOS support very reliably. I.e. the 2015 mbp was dropped from 2022 macos release like on the clock.

vetinari commented on Windows 365 Link Preview microsoft.com/en-us/windo... · Posted by u/taubek

dmd · 9 months ago

You mean you don’t think renaming “Microsoft Remote Desktop” to “Windows App” was brilliant?

vetinari · 9 months ago

Well, they removed the ability to connect local rdp pcs as well (in the Windows version). Their recommendation is to continue using mstsc.

vetinari commented on Is Chrome the New IE? (2023) magiclasso.co/insights/is... · Posted by u/bentocorp

jasode · 9 months ago

>What exactly are these exotic sites you are visiting that break in Firefox?

In my case, an example of a non-exotic site is Youtube streaming 4k 60fps videos. I tried with latest Firefox a few months ago and it was still stuttering and glitchy. But Chrome plays smoothly with no issues. I previously mentioned that 4k playback has been a long-standing issue: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28783904

On one hand, my computer is fairly old ... but then again, Chrome works fine on that same old hardware.

vetinari · 9 months ago

Never seen this; however, youtube prefers pushing VP9 over H.264. Maybe your computer cannot use hardware decode for VP9 and can for H.264? (Since you mentioned, it is an older one). Maybe the h264ify extension would help.

What firefox cannot do and chrome can is HDR playback.

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pjmlp · 9 months ago

In 2024, the recomend ways to write GUIs in Windows are Win32 (your native widgets library), exposed by WinForms. WPF has parity with WinUI 3, in recomended way by the platform owner, officially communicated at BUILD 2024.

Doubled down at .NET Conf 2024 during the last week.

Regardless of the GUI framework from Apple, and Microsoft, those are managed bindings to the underlying native APIS (Win32 and Cocoa), which is why they also expose handles to do lowlevel stuff if one so desires, coding like 2000.

Webviews are a different matter, as they don't require shipping Chrome with the application.

It definelty has a lot to do with Linux shops, as they can't be bothered to support GNOME, KDE, Sway, XFCE, or whatever everyone else uses, so Electron it is.

And then they want Mac OS and Windows customers as well.

vetinari · 9 months ago

> In 2024, the recomend ways to write GUIs in Windows are Win32 (your native widgets library), exposed by WinForms. WPF has parity with WinUI 3, in recomended way by the platform owner, officially communicated at BUILD 2024.

So maybe Microsoft should update their own guides then: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/get-started/?...

| Many apps for Windows are written using Win32, Windows Forms, or UWP. Each of these frameworks is supported and will continue to receive bug, reliability, and security fixes, but varying levels of investment for new features and styles. For more information about these app types see the following tabs.

Yes, in Build 2024, there was backpedaling back to WPF, since WinUI is in terrible shape.

> Webviews are a different matter, as they don't require shipping Chrome with the application.

Electron also doesn't ship Chrome with application; it ships the rendering engine (blink) and javascript engine (v8). Which is exactly the same, as edge webview. Unlike edge webview, they are not dragged in by Microsoft Edge, the browser (so you get it whether you have an use for it or not).

> It definelty has a lot to do with Linux shops, as they can't be bothered to support GNOME, KDE, Sway, XFCE, or whatever everyone else uses, so Electron it is.

So how do you imagine such support would look like? I know a thing or two about development on linux, but I have no idea what would supporting XFCE or Sway explicitly in an app would involve. Unless you hyperbolize, right?

The only real decision would be choosing Gtk or Qt; the desktop environments have no real impact on your app and with Qt, you are getting the multiplatform support, that is supposedly behind the electron usage of those linux shops.

Also, what exactly are those linux shops, that target multiplatform by using electron? Is it like Cisco? Or Meta? Maybe Bitwarden? Discord? Figma? Microsoft (skype, vscode)?