This video nerd-sniped me so hard. All these mechanics put a smile on my face.
Readit Newstudorizer commented on VHS-C: When a lazy idea stumbles towards perfection [video] youtube.com/watch?v=HFYWH... · Posted by u/surprisetalk
It’s not a human. But it is useful. Heck sometimes it’s even been a senior dev to some of my queries, because I need the knowledge I don’t gave.
But it’s not a human. I can’t coach it and it’s not my friend. Boundaries and purpose
> Boundaries and purpose
This can't be emphasized enough!
It's a new hammer
but one that is improving at an exponential pace and is developing capabilities to use itself with increasing reliability
It's easy to look at AI and draw a simple analogy to existing tools, because in most cases it is used as a tool, but the properties of intelligence and its ability to make things in the world is very unique and not comparable to any other tool.
All tools are useful because they require intelligence to use, and the tool magnifies the aim of intelligence. When the tools become intelligent themselves, certain recursive feedback loops will start to appear. Simply look at the quality of AI code outputs from 2 years ago compared to today.
As long as you're not going too far down the "the hammer will start using itself" path.
Recursive feedback loops and fast pace of improvements are priced in.
From the junior devs I've seen? Even GPT-4 is better than 80% of junior devs. This is not to say "amazeballs", this is the lowest bar where someone actually gets paid.
Those juniors quickly stop being juniors, but while they are juniors, GPT-4 passes this minimal-chargeable-bar.
> What's the benefit of over-anthropomorphizing a hammer?
I go with what (IIRC) @TeMPOraL says on occasion: anthropomorphising them alerts you to the categories of error to expect, that you need to mitigate.
(This is separate to "why do people anthropomorphise this hammer?", to which the answer is IMO "this hammer loudly anthropomorphises itself whenever anyone so much as touches it").
This hammers starts sounding like Excalibur given all the mythos around it. :)
Agreed on the minimal-chargeable-bar point. The beauty arises when juniors grow.
have you tried those 80 agentic tools? They are not opportunities for devs, they are opportunities for the people selling them. We are 2 years into vibecoding and nobody can point to one great piece of software created using it.
I have tried quite a few and would defo agree with your conclusion. Also not fully buying the "you're holding it wrong" answers.
I point at long such lists of tools only to indicate a certain level of complexity, which will most likely fall in the realm of "oh, this is too technical for me. I should delegate this to Alice, because she good with tech". This is only shifting the problems and problems mean opportunity.
With every technological leap we have pushback, it's natural.
I'm sure people complained that hammers were a useless invention and why would anyone not want to keep using rocks.
Absolutely.
When complexity grows and lines between boundries of what's what blur, opportunity for misunderstanding sneaks in.
We should welcome scrutiny, though.
> What's the benefit of over-anthropomorphizing a hammer?
Lowering dev salaries. Not a benefit to most of us, tho
If the myth of the "copy-paste dev" has any truth to it, then salaries are inflated.
On the flip-side, lists like "here are 80 agentic tools for your start-up" sounds like new opportunities for devs on quite a few dimensions, no?
Bro it was analogy. Stop taking things too seriously.
BTW, this wasn't meant as a direct jab to your post. My post is sparked by many sources.
Bro it was analogy. Stop taking things too seriously.
Tell this to junior devs who get demoralised.
Analogies have power.
tudorizer commented on Ask HN: If Google will sell Chrome, is that a good thing? · Posted by u/worldsavior
Depends on who this other company is and what their goal is. Perplexity? Most likely no.
Some open-source foundation? Maybe.