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ttonkytonk commented on Why housing shortages cause homelessness   worksinprogress.co/issue/... · Posted by u/apsec112
ttonkytonk · a year ago
It would help if voucher programs were more flexible.

E.g. if a $1000 voucher is available for an apartment, why not a $500 one for a relative's room?

ttonkytonk commented on The Onion buys Infowars   nytimes.com/2024/11/14/bu... · Posted by u/coloneltcb
jsheard · a year ago
ttonkytonk · a year ago
I hope Mr. Tetraheder remembers to make any accounts permanent regardless of the wishes of the members - nothing like a permanent asset.
ttonkytonk commented on Satisfaction with Democracy Has Declined in Recent Years in High-Income Nations   pewresearch.org/short-rea... · Posted by u/sarimkx
ttonkytonk · 2 years ago
I think they're assuming the representative democracies actually exist.

In the U.S. (from what I've seen - I'm envious of those with commanding knowledge of the situation) there are occasional elections with very limited, pre-chosen slates of candidates that most people don't know personally. The last time I tried to contact my district city councilperson (albeit in a fairly large city), a secretary answered my email.

There's also the assumption (not to deny the stated correlation) that satisfaction is tied to economic welfare. My opinion is that while this is necessary, it's hardly sufficient, and a major issue is not only economic inequality but a general inequality in opportunities to have any sort of influence in societal operations. I think it would be better if more people could be big fishes in little ponds. The professional class that makes up the media is defacto big fish and has a bias and blind spots to this.

Furthermore, I believe a better description of what exists in the U.S. at least is that we have a representative oligarchy - elected officials primarily representing and serving rich business interests.

Please understand that this is not really a moral judgement on my part - it seems entirely predictable and probably unavoidable for this to happen in an age of breathtaking material and technological abundance coupled with confusion about larger social questions.

ttonkytonk commented on Does chaos theory square classical physics with human agency?   aeon.co/essays/does-chaos... · Posted by u/rbanffy
galaxyLogic · 2 years ago
That's a novel viewpoint although maybe little schizophrenic, our body coercing our mind/will? Is that how you view it? Our mind wants to be free of our body?
ttonkytonk · 2 years ago
I don't feel like this is a fair representation of my viewpoint, it certainly makes me a little angry. I'm afraid I'll have to discontinue this discussion.
ttonkytonk commented on Does chaos theory square classical physics with human agency?   aeon.co/essays/does-chaos... · Posted by u/rbanffy
galaxyLogic · 2 years ago
We need to first ask what we mean by Free Will before contemplating whether we have it or not. So we have to ask, if we have free will what is it free of? I would propose it means free from undue influence by others.

Think of some politicians claiming they stand for "freedom". Freedom from what and freedom for whom. My freedom to do anything I want, carry a machine gun for instance, interferes from the freedom others want to be free of gun violence. So when talking about freedom we have to always consider freedom for whom to do what? Similarly "free will" must be qualified by: free of what?

I think a good answer is "free from coercion by others". Now, you can coerce me to do anything, to say anything, and really to WANT anything you want me to want, by threatening my life with a gun. So, we only have free will in as far nobody is infringing on our basic freedoms.

ttonkytonk · 2 years ago
But how about the coercion of our own bodies? Is our will free if we're (for example) free to consume all we want, even if that consumption makes us feel worse in the long run and we know it?

And in this case, is the issue weakness of will, or is the will determined to do what seems best based on its available knowledge?

ttonkytonk commented on Does chaos theory square classical physics with human agency?   aeon.co/essays/does-chaos... · Posted by u/rbanffy
galaxyLogic · 2 years ago
I think Free Will must be understood from the point of an actor who is trying to influence other actors. How will the actor we are trying to influence react? WE cannot force their reaction. Therefore from our point of view they have free will. We cannot control their will. Whereas, if they were puppets we could control their behavior to a large degree.

This has to do with the point about agency in the article. Everything in your "light-cone" can and will affect what decisions you make. But there are so many butterflies in your light-cone that you cannot say any one of them (alone) decides what your decision is. They cannot force your decisions and thus you have free will. No other actor can control your decisions. You are free of their will, thus your will is free of their will. Thus you have "free will".

ttonkytonk · 2 years ago
Our will is not free, it belongs to us!

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ttonkytonk commented on Shrink the Economy, Save the World?   nytimes.com/2024/06/08/bo... · Posted by u/crummy
DEADMINCE · 2 years ago
This seems like a vague comment that doesn't map to mine in any real way. Could you elaborate a little more on your point?
ttonkytonk · 2 years ago
I believe the real evil is in the conceit of knowledge, and that the gross inequalities of material wealth are actually only symptoms of this.

Roughly 2,500 years ago two giants of ethical philosophy appeared on the scene in the form of Socrates (who can be learned about best through Plato's dialogues and Xenophon's underappreciated Socratic works) and Siddartha Guatama (I would recommend Thich Nhat Hanh's Old Path White Clouds as a reasonably unified source of his life and thought).

I know bringing those guys up probably seems sentimental, but I have lived experience with poverty, and political "realism" is only beneficial to those who have not as yet suffered the consequences of harmful patterns of behavior.

I think Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol illustrates a pretty good path for the exceedingly wealthy to become heroes, but there's this problem of sentiment, isn't there? And yet sentiment is constantly appealed to in all forms of commercial advertising!

People don't even know why or how they are here. Siddartha and Socrates' responses were basically that the answers are difficult to articulate or fathom, but the real pressing issue is how best to live life, and their answers were basically to moderate and do no harm or wrong, at least as much as possible, because the real goods are non-material, and to do wrong actually harms the perpetrator more than the victim.

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