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trimboffle commented on We Wasted $50K on Google Ads So You Don't Have To (2019)   indiehackers.com/article/... · Posted by u/sloka
michaelbuckbee · 6 years ago
I feel like this a really uncharitable reading of the article. This is a real business that has built itself up from nothing to $100,000 per month in revenue (which is important as it means they aren't just burning VC cash in random acts of marketing) and they're speaking in precise terms about specific actions they've taken and the results they've gotten.

I've no doubt that if you're unfamiliar with marketing that these terms are new (in the same way that if you're a marketer and reading about database indexing you're going to have to do a little work to figure out what everything means.)

This is important to me not because I've any stake in this (I've no affiliation with Uploadcare) but because I worry that the knee jerk rejection of any kind of marketing by developers really hurts startups and bootstrappers.

There is definitely blather in the marketing world [1], I'm just saying this isn't it.

1 - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pepsis-nonsensical-logo-redesig...

trimboffle · 6 years ago
Michael .... it’s really bad writing.

You can’t say “hey ordinary person I’ll save you wasting $50k on AdWords” then instantly drop straight deep into the most arcane of mumbled, cryptic, faded rune digital marketing magic speak.

Refer to the comment below from HN user 83457 who explains same but in English.

trimboffle commented on We Wasted $50K on Google Ads So You Don't Have To (2019)   indiehackers.com/article/... · Posted by u/sloka
83457 · 6 years ago
They are getting more new customers (edit: others have pointed out it also includes increased revenue from existing customers), thanks primarily to personal recommendations (word of mouth), than they are losing customers.
trimboffle · 6 years ago
You sir, should have written the article.
trimboffle commented on We Wasted $50K on Google Ads So You Don't Have To (2019)   indiehackers.com/article/... · Posted by u/sloka
threeseed · 6 years ago
This is pretty basic stuff for a SaaS company.

Might be worth watching some of the YC Startup School videos to get up to speed.

trimboffle · 6 years ago
Ah yes, “YC Startup School“ where dumbos like me may learn the basic things, thanks I’ll seek it out to come up to speed.
trimboffle commented on We Wasted $50K on Google Ads So You Don't Have To (2019)   indiehackers.com/article/... · Posted by u/sloka
trimboffle · 6 years ago
This is such impressive blather that I’m now convinced I know nothing at all about modern sales and marketing.

It may as well have been written by an ancient alien civilization for all I understood.

Probably we’ll hear something very like this when SETI receives a signal from another star system.

trimboffle · 6 years ago
>>> Thanks to developers’ trust in our core infrastructure and their recommendations, we’re fortunate to have a constant and growing inbound flow of leads and net negative churn, meaning the value of usage-driven upgrades outweighs the loss in revenue from subscription cancellations.

I’m glad they clarified what “net negative churn” means, that really cleared things up.

trimboffle commented on We Wasted $50K on Google Ads So You Don't Have To (2019)   indiehackers.com/article/... · Posted by u/sloka
trimboffle · 6 years ago
This is such impressive blather that I’m now convinced I know nothing at all about modern sales and marketing.

It may as well have been written by an ancient alien civilization for all I understood.

Probably we’ll hear something very like this when SETI receives a signal from another star system.

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trimboffle commented on Microsoft to force Chrome default search to Bing via Office365 ProPlus installer   theverge.com/2020/1/22/21... · Posted by u/Flenser
trimboffle · 6 years ago
Why can’t users choose their default search on installation?
trimboffle commented on Turkey buys Delphi licenses for an estimated one million students   jonlennartaasenden.wordpr... · Posted by u/ch_123
dvfjsdhgfv · 6 years ago
The key question is: should it be so? Or: wouldn't the world be a better place if we had some equilibrium between web and desktop apps?
trimboffle · 6 years ago
No.

But I can see this thread is populated with Delphi diehards.

trimboffle commented on Turkey buys Delphi licenses for an estimated one million students   jonlennartaasenden.wordpr... · Posted by u/ch_123
aortega · 6 years ago
> python is probably a more relevant choice.

Python doesn't have any standard graphical IDE or even GUI widgets. No modern language can create GUI applications with the ease of use of Delphi, except maybe .NET (which is based on Delphi).

trimboffle · 6 years ago
Building desktop GUI apps is pretty niche these days compared with building browser apps.

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