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toss_me_sc commented on Santa Cruz plans high-rise living as a fix for sky-high housing costs   latimes.com/california/st... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
mcntsh · 2 years ago
I guess I'm a bit of a NIMBY like most Santa Cruzians (well ex-) but idk Santa Cruz is just an idyllic beach town. That's part of the charm and the identity. I don't think everywhere needs to metropolize and I'm not convinced doing so will even have an effect on housing costs. I also realize this is an incredibly unpopular opinion.

I do think the city needs housing, for sure, but high rises? Baby steps maybe?

toss_me_sc · 2 years ago
I don't think we really have a choice. If we don't build more housing, we'll just have more homeless. The scale at which we need to in order to clean up the river is much larger than I think most people realize
toss_me_sc commented on Santa Cruz plans high-rise living as a fix for sky-high housing costs   latimes.com/california/st... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
somethoughts · 2 years ago
Monterey - particularly Seaside, Sand City and Marina - seem like an ideal location for future growth with more open area and connections to Salinas while still maintaining the beach/seaside access.
toss_me_sc · 2 years ago
Some of us actually want the density here. I think its better (and more environmentally friendly) to go up in santa cruz than out along the bay
toss_me_sc commented on Santa Cruz plans high-rise living as a fix for sky-high housing costs   latimes.com/california/st... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
toss_me_sc · 2 years ago
There's another piece that isn't discussed in this article and desperately needs technological solutions -

Our permitting and building processes are completely broken. People who lost their homes in the CZU complex fires are giving up and donating their land because of the difficulty of rebuilding. Even applying for something as simple as rooftop solar is extremely onerous and time consuming.

Every piece of the permitting process would benefit from new tech to enable the county and developers to get moving. Plans are rejected for tiny reasons "No fire testing data sheets were attached for the aluminum rails that every neighbor has already used on their roof."

A recent real estate listing described years of frustration trying to build an appropriate multifamily on their correctly zoned land, and eventually giving up to sell the house.

toss_me_sc commented on Santa Cruz plans high-rise living as a fix for sky-high housing costs   latimes.com/california/st... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
abeppu · 2 years ago
This is already a thing. Santa Cruz (and I think a bunch of places in CA?) have an a rule that lowers the assessed value of your property for tax purposes if it is your primary residence.

However:

- the size of the benefit is small

- my understanding is there is very little effort to confirm these for small owners

https://www.santacruzcountyca.gov/Departments/AssessorsOffic...

toss_me_sc · 2 years ago
It is $65/year. Compare this to Somerville, MA where it is 35% a year
toss_me_sc commented on Santa Cruz plans high-rise living as a fix for sky-high housing costs   latimes.com/california/st... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
duxup · 2 years ago
Good article, great photos.

I sympathize with folks worried about changing their neighborhood. At the same time there's really no magic solution to high housing costs outside increasing supply.

toss_me_sc · 2 years ago
There aren't any magic solutions, but I think there are a lot of ideas that could incentivize affordable housing for people who actually live here.

A number of my neighbors are Prop 13 'princelings'. Their parents snapped up a bunch of housing, have next to 0 annual cost, and extract fantastic wealth renting them out, all while receiving a huge tax subsidy. This position passes to the next generation, who essentially become absentee landlords and are heavily incentivized to prevent more housing.

A number of places in Santa Cruz and the rest of the county are completely underutilized because these families prefer to do absolutely nothing and collect insane rents on dilapidated properties to the detriment of everybody else who lives here.

toss_me_sc commented on Santa Cruz plans high-rise living as a fix for sky-high housing costs   latimes.com/california/st... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
toss_me_sc · 2 years ago
As a Santa Cruz homeowner who has lived in other dense and sparse places, I love this. I can't wait for this to happen and wish I could do more to make it happen more quickly.

With the introduction of the rail trail, Santa Cruz has the potential to become one of the most livable places in the United States

I think San Francisco is an easy lesson in the politics of building - You get to choose density or destitution, and you don't get to opt out.

I lived in SF for 10 years and Boston for 5. SF is a worse place for the time, and Boston has only gotten better. I'm a firm believer that development is the reason.

u/toss_me_sc

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