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tippytippytango commented on When Tesla's FSD works well, it gets credit. When it doesn't, you get blamed   electrek.co/2025/11/08/sc... · Posted by u/Bender
terminalshort · a month ago
If there was actually a rate of one life threatening accident per 10,000 miles with FSD that would be so obvious it would be impossible to hide. So I have to conclude the cars are actually much safer than that.
tippytippytango · a month ago
Above I was talking more generally about full autonomy. I agree the combined human + fsd system can be at least as safe as a human driver, perhaps more, if you have a good driver. As a frequent user of FSD, it's unreliability can be a feature, it constantly reminds me it can't be fully trusted, so I shadow drive and pay full attention. So it's like having a second pair of eyes on the road.

I worry that when it gets to 10,000 mile per incident reliability that it's going to be hard to remind myself I need to pay attention. At which point it becomes a de facto unsupervised system and its reliability falls to that of the autonomous system, rather than the reliability of human + autonomy, an enormous gap.

Of course, I could be wrong. Which is why we need some trusted third party validation of these ideas.

tippytippytango commented on When Tesla's FSD works well, it gets credit. When it doesn't, you get blamed   electrek.co/2025/11/08/sc... · Posted by u/Bender
tippytippytango · a month ago
Ultimately, anecdotes and testimonials of a product like this are irrelevant. But the public discourse hasn't caught up with it. People talk about it like it's a new game console or app, giving their positive or negative testimonials, as if this is the correct way to validate the product.

Only rigorous, continual, third party validation that the system is effective and safe would be relevant. It should be evaluated more like a medical treatment.

This gets especially relevant when it gets into an intermediate regime where it can go 10,000 miles without a catastrophic incident. At that level of reliability you can find lots of people who claim "it's driven me around for 2 years without any problem, what are you complaining about?"

10,000 mile per incident fault rate is actually catastrophic. That means the average driver has a serious, life threatening incident every year at an average driving rate. That would be a public safety crisis.

We run into the problem again in the 100,000 mile per incident range. This is still not safe. Yet, that's reliable enough where you can find many people who can potentially get lucky and live their whole life and not see the system cause a catastrophic incident. Yet, it's still 2-5x worse than the average driver.

tippytippytango commented on 'Attention is all you need' coauthor says he's 'sick' of transformers   venturebeat.com/ai/sakana... · Posted by u/achow
tippytippytango · 2 months ago
It's difficult to do because of how well matched they are to the hardware we have. They were partially designed to solve the mismatch between RNNs and GPUs, and they are way too good at it. If you come up with something truly new, it's quite likely you have to influence hardware makers to help scale your idea. That makes any new idea fundamentally coupled to hardware, and that's the lesson we should be taking from this. Work on the idea as a simultaneous synthesis of hardware and software. But, it also means that fundamental change is measured in decade scales.

I get the impulse to do something new, to be radically different and stand out, especially when everyone is obsessing over it, but we are going to be stuck with transformers for a while.

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tippytippytango commented on Ex-Waymo engineers launch Bedrock Robotics to automate construction   techcrunch.com/2025/07/16... · Posted by u/boulos
ecshafer · 5 months ago
I think that more than physics the bottleneck for this is political (at least in the US). All of the local large projects around me are expensive because of massive amounts of red tape (environmental studies, zoning, planning), and political patronage systems. After the kick backs, political donations, promises to only work 8 hours a day, only use union labor, hire x police officers for y hours in overtime security positions a month, use xyz contractor etc. a small cost seems to be the actual labor and materials. Hell these robots if they work will be made illlegal.
tippytippytango · 5 months ago
We need a silver tongued LLM agent that can align all these forces (and a well provisioned MCP paypal tool for greasing palms)
tippytippytango commented on François Chollet: The Arc Prize and How We Get to AGI [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=5QcCe... · Posted by u/sandslash
qoez · 5 months ago
I feel like I'm the only one who isn't convinced getting a high score on the ARC eval test means we have AGI. It's mostly about pattern matching (and some of it ambiguous even for humans what the actual true response aught to be). It's like how in humans there's lots of different 'types' of intelligence, and just overfitting on IQ tests doesn't in my mind convince me a person is actually that smart.
tippytippytango · 5 months ago
He’s playing the game. You have to say AGI is your goal to get attention. It’s just like the YouTube thumbnail game. You can hate it, but you still have to play if you want people to pay attention.

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