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throwawayy1224 commented on Visa and Mastercard agree to lower average credit card interchange fee below 1%   ca.news.yahoo.com/visa-ma... · Posted by u/gregsadetsky
e63f67dd-065b · 2 years ago
These numbers are not public, but the grapevine is that visa/mastercard keeps about a third of all interchange.

Credit card rewards are a regressive tax on the poor -- literally, only those like us here on HN with good credit can get 2% cashback on everything, the rest who pay with debit/cash effectively subsidise our 2% discount. I enjoy my 2% cashback, but really would rather see a world where, like the EU, interchange got slashed to 30bps and it all went away.

Take a look around the rest of the world -- Alipay in China is 55bps, TNG is Malaysia is 50, Pix in Brazil (I can't find concrete numbers, but seems to be around 22bps), etc. 2-300 bps is outrageous, we should demand better.

I don't know what's the solution here. I'm weary of government intervention in capping prices, but I'm not sure what's the alternative here -- force each card to be available over multiple networks and for them to bid the interchange per transaction? Durbin amendment style caps? I don't know. But I do know that the status quo cannot stand.

Edit: see the classic Boston Fed paper https://www.bostonfed.org/publications/public-policy-discuss... for a more through explanation of my point

throwawayy1224 · 2 years ago
Pix and other types of instant payments systems are very different products from credit cards. I'm not sure if it is a fair comparison.

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