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throwaway59601 commented on How Facebook and Instagram became marketplaces for child sex trafficking theguardian.com/news/2023... · Posted by u/sandebert

mc32 · 2 years ago

Point is, grown adults who "know better" fall into these traps too. It's not only about inculcation or knowing better. If it's there, despite all you know, sometimes you fall for it. That's the point.

throwaway59601 · 2 years ago

That adults know better is a myth. They don't. It's not about knowing better, it's about being taught to be reasonable with the thing, and that takes long exposure to that thing, ideally with the support of a parent.

throwaway59601 commented on How Facebook and Instagram became marketplaces for child sex trafficking theguardian.com/news/2023... · Posted by u/sandebert

scarface74 · 2 years ago

Yes, just like the “Just Say No” campaign completely stopped children from using drugs and parents telling children to “save themselves until marriage” stop children from having sex.

throwaway59601 · 2 years ago

That confirms my point - I'm saying that restriction, blocking access or making it a tabu never works, it does the exact opposite (and worse, because it builds a sense of urgency to have/experience the thing).

Instead of forbidding it, you have to teach the children about the actual dangers of doing the thing and how to do it safely, how to limit the damage and what are the limits they shouldn't cross - and the reasons for these limits.

Telling them "just say no" or "you have to wait until marriage" only makes them even more curious, and in many cases they will absolutely overdo it once they finally are out of the reach of their parents.

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kranke155 · 2 years ago

Sure. And what OP is proposing here is communism ?

Do you believe your life experience allows you to predict the future?

throwaway59601 · 2 years ago

Idk, you seemed to be claiming that communism works, I'm telling you it doesn't and that your example is true only because of the free market around these communist-owned restaurants. That's it.

Edit because I can't reply: because I hate it when people say that communism works even though they never lived through it and have no idea what it actually is to live in it. It's terrible, an entire country of multiple millions of humans is condemned to horrible life. Don't do it, there is enough examples of how bad it is already.

We're talking about experiences of hundreds of millions of people (most of whom don't speak English and don't frequent US forums but they still exist). Yes, their experience can predict the future. Communism always and very quickly failed and then became (or simply started as) oligarchist dictatorship.

throwaway59601 commented on How Facebook and Instagram became marketplaces for child sex trafficking theguardian.com/news/2023... · Posted by u/sandebert

mc32 · 2 years ago

Because we know that adults who get addicted to deleterious drugs in adulthood didn't know the dangers of it, right? Sometimes availability and the wrong situation can land people in a lot of trouble. Finance is another area where despite knowing the severe drawbacks. People in the wrong circumstance may seek out loan sharks.

throwaway59601 · 2 years ago

Not sure why you're bringing up drugs here. We're talking about webpages, not substances directly altering your neurochemistry.

But yeah, indeed - usually it's a fault of parenting. Instead of properly teaching about the dangers and responsibility (in case of weed/alcohol, or finance) they made it a tabu.

throwaway59601 commented on Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted wikimedia.brussels/europe... · Posted by u/ZacnyLos

kranke155 · 2 years ago

I’ve been to restaurants owned by communists and the food was great.

You’re just repeating cliches IMO

throwaway59601 · 2 years ago

Because they operated on the free market around them, forcing them to have good quality or they wouldn't get paid.

I lived in communism where the state owned practically everything - and everything, not just the food, was shit, and you couldn't get it anyways, we didn't even have toilet paper. Don't get me started on women's hygienic accessories. The recommendation from government was to use old newspaper - because propaganda is more important than hygiene, right?

throwaway59601 commented on How Facebook and Instagram became marketplaces for child sex trafficking theguardian.com/news/2023... · Posted by u/sandebert

psychlops · 2 years ago

It's unusual if they didn't have unmonitored access to the internet. Helicopter parenting takes a lot of energy and technical parents can only do so much. A 12yo without a phone is a social pariah.

What is odd to me in the story was the absence of a moral compass of the child and lack of knowledge of the internet as a potentially hostile place.

throwaway59601 · 2 years ago

That's what happens when parents restrict kids instead of teaching them about the dangers.

throwaway59601 commented on How Facebook and Instagram became marketplaces for child sex trafficking theguardian.com/news/2023... · Posted by u/sandebert

ShowalkKama · 2 years ago

why did a 12yo child have unmonitored access to the internet?

throwaway59601 · 2 years ago

If you think your 12y/o doesn't have unmonitored access to the internet, you're very naive. Especially if you decided to block social media, kids will not have any of that.

I used to be a boy scout leader. 10y/o kids routinely broke any and all blocking their parents put on. If they couldn't do it, they bought an old cheap smartphone and went to their friends/McDonald's with it.