Human still killed human. Gun did not walk into MRI. It was carried in. Man kills self by eschewing due care when in close proximity to MRI should be the headline.
you're right the headline could be written differently. But I'm not with you on "Human still killed human, because Gun did not walk into MRI" -> when the argument is "not guns kill humans, its human kill humans", this imply one takes a gun and use it intentionally - which is always the case when the bullet is fired up with finger-force and is directed towards smthg. Here, the gun was not used, there has not been a finger on the trigger, but it went of. Just because the gun was carried in, it doesn't make "Human killed Human". Guns are carried to a lot of places they should not be carried to without any incident. Here the gun went off without pulling the trigger :)
it could also happen in a sauna with one sitting alone and having the gun put aside. Of course, "why do you bring a gun into a sauna? Its your fault.." No its not. Its not supposed to shoot without pulling the trigger. So one can carry the gun to any places without being shot by it.
>It could also happen in a sauna with one sitting alone and having the gun put aside.
Horse hockey. Most rounds will only go off at 275° Fahrenheit and above, and if they aren't chambered, aren't a problem. Yes, people have set out to deliberately set off ammunition to characterize the thermal sensitivity of it, and most primers are specifically designed to be more shock sensitive than thermally sensitive. If you're in a 275° sauna with a loaded firearm with a round chambered and pointed at yourself, I would still categorize that as a you problem, not an it problem.
https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/cook-off-temperatur...
>Its not supposed to shoot without pulling the trigger.
The trigger was literally pulled by the executive decision to introduce the loaded firearm to an environment that replaces the dominant form of safing, the mechanical interlocks, with an alternate triggering mechanism. It wasn't magic. You take ferromagnetic thing near big magnet, big magnet pulls magnetic thing (firing pin) forward, firing pin strikes primer of chambered round. ND.
The device is designed to prevent the pin moving forward under typical usage conditions via push by mechanical safeties (which depending on the strength of magnetic field and the material they are fabricated from could compromise their function as well), but has no constraint on pulling. Why? Because no one is generally considered to be daft enough to waltz into an MRI or other Big Frigging Magnet with a loaded firearm with a round chambered, especially after it has been pointed out that all metal on your person must be safely stored for access to the MRI. This is a glorified lesson on why when your life is at stake, you double up on safety. Don't just trust that hydraulic jack. Use a jack stand. You can't even make the argument that the firing train shouldn't have ferromagnetic parts, because most jurisdictions require metallic components capable of being detected by a metal detector.
Things the user could have done to rectify the situation as an increasingly responsible firearm owner:
A) Clear the round in the chamber. No round locked in, no problem, still jeopardizing the MRI machine, but no discharge risk. B) Put the weapon in the same locker everyone else puts their metal stuff in as procedures state. No risk to anyone's property at that point.
I'm sorry, but you won't convince me this was a failing of the weapon. This was a tragic, but nevertheless self-inflicted ND on the part of the wielder. No one else can be blamed for this gentleman's egregious lapse in vigilance, understanding of rudimentary physics, risk management, and the operating principles of his everyday carry.
just to add, it's not only the trigger that can put into movement by the magnetic forces, or some secure-hinge, it also can be heat induced by magnetic fields / induction / in the bullet itself.
I stay with my view, though. When the gun were not brought in, it could not go off and, thus, no fatality. Its the gun & bullet that killed its possessor and not the MRT or the process of "bringing it in". The same would not happen with a printed, non-magnetic gun (if we put aside the bullet's ferromagnetism, if any..). So two guns - both brought in - one goes off - which one killed?? Like you said, horse hockey.
I could follow the argument "its not guns killing human, its the bullets" :)