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stosssik commented on First impressions of Claude Cowork   simonw.substack.com/p/fir... · Posted by u/stosssik
gchallen · 25 days ago
I've built several bespoke "apps" that are essentially Claude Code + a folder with files in it. For example, I have Claude Coach, which designs ultimate frisbee workouts for me. We started with a few Markdown files—one with my goals, one with information about my schedule, another with information about the equipment and facilities I have access to, and so on. It would access those files and use them to create my weekly workout plans, which were also saved as files under the same folder.

Over time this has become more sophisticated. I've created custom commands to incorporate training tips from YouTube videos (via YT-DLP and WhisperX) and PDFs of exercise plans or books that I've purchased. I've used or created MCP servers to give it access to data from my smart watch and smart scale. It has a few database-like YAML files for scoring things like exercise weight ranges and historical fitness metrics. At some point we'll probably start publishing the workouts online somewhere where I can view and complete them electronically, although I'm not feeling a big rush on that. I can work on this at my own pace and it's never been anything but fun.

I think there's a whole category of personal apps that are essentially AI + a folder with files in it. They are designed and maintained by you, can be exactly what you want (or at least can prompt), and don't need to be published or shared with anyone else. But to create them you needed to be comfortable at the command line. I actually had a chat with Claude about this, asking if there was a similar workflow for non-CLI types. Claude Cowork seems like it. I'll be curious to see what kinds of things non-technical users get up to with it, at least once it's more widely available.

stosssik · 13 days ago
This resonates a lot. And we’re working on something in the same space: a way to build MCP aps for non technical people. If there are builders here who like experimenting, we’re looking for beta testers: -> https://manifest.build
stosssik commented on The future of software engineering is SRE   swizec.com/blog/the-futur... · Posted by u/Swizec
stosssik · 14 days ago
Totally agree. Vibe coding will generate lots of internal AI apps, but turning them into reliable, secure, governed services still requires real engineering, which is exactly why we’re building https://manifest.build. It lets non-technical teams build Agentic apps fast through an AI powered workflow builder while giving engineering and IT a single platform to add governance, security, data access, and keep everything production-ready at scale.
stosssik commented on Ask HN: Vibe-coded prototypes: what happens when they go into production?    · Posted by u/stosssik
codingdave · 19 days ago
There is a long history of non-tech users being able to create apps. LLMs are the latest flavor, but there have been no/low-code platforms around since at least the 90s.

Small apps used by a few people tend to work just fine, don't need much help, and become useful little tools. Apps that scale beyond that tend to either crash, burn, and get shut down... or they find professionals who take over the app, refactor the warts, fix it up, and maintain the app on an ongoing basis. It all depends on whether the app is bringing in enough revenue or other business value to be able to afford such professional support.

I see no reason to believe that vibe coded apps will follow a different pattern.

stosssik · 14 days ago
Thanks for the perspective. Could you be more concrete about what specifically doesn’t change with vibe-coded apps? Have you recurring friction points in mind that force a handoff to professional engineers once these apps need to scale ?

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