We have different views about what is humane. I struggle to understand yours, but that's OK.
Well, certainly we can agree to disagree.
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I don't consider it humane to let someone live on the streets begging until they happen to die of a drug overdose.
I don't care about their wishes, guided by drug addiction and mental health issues. To allow and enable this much squandering of human potential is a moral crime.
Get people clean of drugs, healthy, stable, and educated. By force, if needed. If from that baseline he decides to go back into a life of drugs and onto the streets, then so be it. But don't allow people to commit themselves to a slow death until they've been forced to step onto a better path and see what their life _could_ be.
This is, in all honesty, a terrifying point of view.
Forcing people to take part in a society that has already rejected them and conform to someone else’s view of normal, healthy, stable, etc., that, to me, would be literal torture. I don’t consider it humane to torture people.
How do you feel about all the busywork jobs that enable so so much more squandering of human potential? Should all those folks be forced to live your version of their best life?
It is also not safe, from a business perspective, to ignore China altogether. Very difficult situation indeed.
It most certainly is not difficult. The ethics of it are exceptionally straightforward.
Greed is at the root of your conundrum. Put that aside, and you'll see more clearly.
I feel like the American populis basically deserves this for endlessly electing the "practical" centrist candidates who don't have the political courage to change anything (or game show hosts, but Trump didn't seem particularly interested in dismantling the surveillance state)
Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. We only get to choose between candidates who are corrupt in different ways. That isn't the fault of the people, it's the fault of the incumbent politicians who game the system to be most favorable to themselves.
If you want to blame us for something, blame us for enjoying the empty comforts of modern life over choosing civil war.
This feels like an attempt to normalize wage reduction & reduced benefits in exchange for working from home.
I call BS. No one should accept this.
srswtf123 commented on Googlespeak – How Google limits thought about antitrust zyppy.com/googlespeak/... · Posted by u/cyrusshepard
That's horrifying. I was not aware. The horror is hundreds of IBM employees were directly involved in extermination activities; literally maintaining tabulation machines on prem, as it were, in the camps.
I hope every HN reader has the awareness and moral strength to resist, where the corporations are unable, the next time such à job comes.
I wonder how much has been spent over the years suppressing this?
srswtf123 commented on Googlespeak – How Google limits thought about antitrust zyppy.com/googlespeak/... · Posted by u/cyrusshepard
What point are you trying to make?
Every corporation has secrets they’d like to hide. No one is beyond reproach.
I don’t think anyone is disputing that — but every thing Google is doing is the result of fallible humans acting in pursuit of profit.
It doesn’t matter who or when. What matters is that people put aside their ethics in pursuit of profits. I think that needs to end.
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srswtf123 commented on Googlespeak – How Google limits thought about antitrust zyppy.com/googlespeak/... · Posted by u/cyrusshepard
> 15 years ago, IBM was far from being a monopoly
I think some historical background is necessary here. Nowadays IBM isn't a monopoly but during the 20th century, IBM was more or less a monopoly. IBM's antitrust problems go back to their 1936 consent decree and 1956 consent decree. IBM was subject to a huge antitrust case that went on from 1969 to 1982 as well as many other antitrust lawsuits.
The first point is that of course IBM and other at-risk companies will have training to keep people from writing things that will cause antitrust problems. (Their antitrust case had 30 million pages of discovery.)
Second, antitrust cases hinge on the "market" (as a legal term), so it's not surprising that Google wants employees to avoid using that word. In an antitrust case, each side will argue over what is "the market", and you don't want to lose the case because of a random email discussing the "market". Google's recommendation to say "Area" instead of "Market" hardly limits thought, but it makes a big different in antitrust.
Third, I don't want to go all CLS, but antitrust law is pretty much incoherent and illogical. Even after the antitrust case against IBM ended (by fizzling out after 13 years), nobody agrees on whether IBM was violating antitrust laws or not.
Okay, but we can agree that IBM powered the holocaust, and that those tattoos on survivor’s arms represented the punch cards for IBM systems, right?
Because really, when there’s a profit to be made, American companies are there to fill a “need”, right?
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Ah yes, the legendary honesty, integrity, and forthrightness of Silicon Valley, and Corporate America in general.
My father, an ex-Navy man, pointedly asked me once: “why do you want your own country to lose?” I don’t! I want us to be honest in our success, not smug while saying “if it isn’t illegal it must be OK!”.
The solution to this could be teaching ethics at all levels of education.
That you don't care about someone's wishes is deeply indicative of your own moral character -- or lack thereof. That we can't even agree to disagree turns my stomach a bit. I'm deeply disappointed, and you've made it very clear to me that I need to walk away from this "community".
So, my final thought will simply be this:
Silicon Valley and their enablers, through their arrogance, short sightedness, and dare I say.. general lack of humanity are creating a dystopian nightmare. In many places, that nightmare already exists in full force. That you don't or can't see it doesn't matter. It's well underway and it won't leave any of us untouched.