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srgvd commented on I Spent Spring Break Teaching Girls to Code   medium.com/bright/amazing... · Posted by u/sarika008
dragonwriter · 10 years ago
> I am not aware of any statistics on this subject. How exactly this is related to my observation?

Its related to the validity of your "observation", in that, if teaching to code is not a female-dominated activity, your "observation" that she chose a female-dominated activity is false.

> All engineers I know who worth their salt acquired their skills mostly through self-education and lot of practice, and the process was gender-independent

Oh, well, if we are going to do dueling anecdotes, all programmers (even if including that population within engineers is proper, there are a lot of engineers outside of that group, and I'm not talking about them, since this is about teaching coding, not teaching engineering in some general sense) worth their salt I know started by being taught by someone -- usually in school or a similar environment, though sometimes tutoring by a family member with experience in the field played a similar role -- at a fairly young age, and then, after developing an interest there, proceeded to choose further education -- both guided and autodidactic -- and lots of practice.

srgvd · 10 years ago
> Its related to the validity of your "observation", in that, if teaching to code is not a female-dominated activity, your "observation" that she chose a female-dominated activity is false.

Well, if you insist on reductio at absurdum, let's continue on. Teaching to code in gilrs-only classes is obviously not a male-dominated activity, would you agree on that?

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This side of the pond, it's fun to observe how Americans try to integrate minorities into bigger groups. The usual tools are: "positive discrimination", ban on open discussion and general patronising attitude on the side of a majority. Because that worked just oh so well with racial minorities.

Last thing women need is your 'knight in the shiny armour' stance toward them. Just treat them as equals, and they'll beat you in your own game once interested enough. It's that easy.

(And, yes, I'm a married man; a father of a beautiful, independent and ambitious daughter; and a hiring manager, with 100% women applicants being hired so far: for being great engineers, albeit a bit unconfident, hence only applying when absolutely sure they're up for the job).

srgvd commented on I Spent Spring Break Teaching Girls to Code   medium.com/bright/amazing... · Posted by u/sarika008
oalders · 10 years ago
Sure, many types of teaching may be dominated by females, but is _teaching to code_ dominated by females?
srgvd · 10 years ago
I am not aware of any statistics on this subject. How exactly this is related to my observation?

All engineers I know who worth their salt acquired their skills mostly through self-education and lot of practice, and the process was gender-independent. I don't think 'boys-are-not-allowed' classes will put any of the participants closer to professional careers in coding.

srgvd commented on I Spent Spring Break Teaching Girls to Code   medium.com/bright/amazing... · Posted by u/sarika008
oalders · 10 years ago
So, this was your takeaway?

Is teaching in this subject also (sic) "absolutely dominated by female"? I doubt it. It's also an incredible amount of work to organize something like this. Kudos to anyone, regardless of gender, who takes this kind of thing on.

I have two little girls. When they're a bit older, I hope some motivated individual is around to put on an event like this for them. If not, maybe that person will be me. :)

srgvd · 10 years ago
> Is teaching in this subject also (sic) "absolutely dominated by female"? I doubt it.

http://www.oecd.org/std/37964549.pdf

FEMALE DOMINATED OCCUPATIONS IN 20 OECD COUNTRIES, Women to Men Ratio

Pre-primary Education Teaching Associate Professionals 14.5:1

Primary Education Teaching Associate Professionals 6.2:1

Special Education Teaching Professionals 5.6:1

Primary and Pre-primary Education Teaching 5.3:1

> It's also an incredible amount of work to organize something like this.

I never said it was simple or unneeded.

srgvd commented on I Spent Spring Break Teaching Girls to Code   medium.com/bright/amazing... · Posted by u/sarika008
srgvd · 10 years ago
So, given the ability to chose between a personal STEM-related project (mostly male) and teaching activity (the area absolutely dominated by female) on her spring break, Christina went for the later.
srgvd commented on 'Nobody My Age Can Afford to Stay Here Forever'   citylab.com/housing/2015/... · Posted by u/cindyceleste
peteretep · 11 years ago
Sure. I used to commute from Zone 2 to Zone 2, and it took over an hour. Had I instead moved out of the city, and commuted in from Reading, it would have been 45 minutes. Don't assume that commuting in from outside of London will take longer than commuting across London.
srgvd · 11 years ago
I'm next to straight underground line going right to my office.

'Just go to Reading' was exactly my point. In order to save enough for a basic housing in London, my quality of life have to drop significantly for years to come. Yet I'm considered to be 'rich' by HMRC. (Practically, this'd mean switching schools for one of my children, and waiting forever for free timeslots in nearby nurseries for another - while saving maybe extra £5-6k/y in rent, which is peanuts when counting towards possible mortgage).

Avg. house prices in my current ward are ~$750-900k for a 3bd terrace. That's ten years of my net income - and you don't have to work for that! Just sell a house you bought 15 years ago for a fraction of this cost - and here you go. Sure, you'd have to rent - just as I do. Yet, all those people are not considered to be wealthy (and they aren't, with many of them struggling with today's job market), and not taxed on the wealth they hold.

So, for me - it's all about taxation and government imposed incentives. If they want to put a leash on a younger britons generation and then pass it to Chinese landlords - they're on the right track.

Changing taxation alone can drastically shift the power balance between landlords and tenants to ease underlying supply-demand issue.

srgvd commented on 'Nobody My Age Can Afford to Stay Here Forever'   citylab.com/housing/2015/... · Posted by u/cindyceleste
pjc50 · 11 years ago
Single yearner

With great typo comes great wisdom.

srgvd · 11 years ago
Thanks for pointing that out. Not good enough with the language to appreciate the pun.
srgvd commented on 'Nobody My Age Can Afford to Stay Here Forever'   citylab.com/housing/2015/... · Posted by u/cindyceleste
peteretep · 11 years ago
Or, ya know, do what everyone else does and commute in?
srgvd · 11 years ago
Zone 4, two hours a day commuting already.
srgvd commented on 'Nobody My Age Can Afford to Stay Here Forever'   citylab.com/housing/2015/... · Posted by u/cindyceleste
tensorproduct · 11 years ago
I have sort of a different experience. I just moved to London, from Dublin, a few months ago. I make a good, but not outrageous, salary: pretty close to a reported average for software developers in London.

I live in a somewhat rundown area, just outside zone 1. The rent is expensive, but not unmanageable. I have flatmates; the area feels safe; its close enough to bus and tube lines that getting around is simple. I live fairly frugally otherwise. I don't at all feel like I can't afford to live in the city, and I can't imagine having the access to the range and depth of culture and social events anywhere else.

Maybe it's that I don't have any interest in buying a home, but I feel like so much of this doesn't apply to me. Maybe it's also that I moved here from Dublin, another very expensive city, that I don't feel like it's so bad.

srgvd · 11 years ago
It's completely possible to live in London. But imagine trying to stay here, like, for life. Starting family, raising kids, buying your own place. Not possible, on any income. You need wealth, and in London there's no way to build it for salaried professional.

It's a good place to spend one's youth though.

srgvd commented on 'Nobody My Age Can Afford to Stay Here Forever'   citylab.com/housing/2015/... · Posted by u/cindyceleste
srgvd · 11 years ago
Single earner with 2 kids living in London on top-1 percentile income here. 60% of that monthly income is going towards rent, taxes and utilities for a terrace in Zone 4, plus nursery charges for our toddler. My wife can't find a job here, as she's an ex-journalist, and not a native speaker. No tax allowances (due to £100k+/y income) and no recurse to public funds (I'm on Visa, and not an EU citizen) doesn't help either. Apparently, I supposed to be rich enough for London to be taxable on 50% of my income (effective tax rate: 41%).

Thought of buying a 2bd flat recently, but it'll take us two years of struggling for every extra penny to just get a mortgage for a very moderate £250k place.

Income means nothing in this city. Either you got your housing issue settled 15 years ago using 'right to buy' or some other form of government housing subsidies, or you somehow generate wealth on a side (obviously, not through the salary, as even £200k/y doesn't seems to be close enough), or you are going to rent until you loose your source of income (i.e. due to old age) - and then you'd probably die on a street.

An economy of landlords drawing the money from their own kids. In a few decades all that accumulated wealth will be probably burned away on anti-cancer treatments, and then heavily taxed and rented younger generation will just quit on trying to build a welfare state, throwing their lives away only to provide a comfort living for older people. Hope our grand-kids will be at least able to start from blank.

srgvd commented on Ask HN: Best Sites for UK Job Search    · Posted by u/LTheobald
srgvd · 11 years ago
While not a job-posting board, but rather a once-a-year event, I still can recommend Silicon Milk Roundabout: https://www.siliconmilkroundabout.com/startups

You might browse through current London's startup needs.

u/srgvd

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