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sqeaky commented on C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'   slashdot.org/submission/1... · Posted by u/jamesy0ung
foonathan · 9 months ago
> one obvious gap is that it doesn't seem to have a statement from the person removed after they were removed.

I think the article is written by the person that was removed. It is lacking any statement of the standard foundation who removed him. No such statement exists, even on the internal committee mailing list it is just an "fyi, that person is no longer on the committee" without any reasons.

I can piece something together from his previous behavior on the committee mailing list, but that information is not public and I'm not at liberty to share.

sqeaky · 9 months ago
That is entirely possible. We simply lack corroborating sources at the moment so we can't jump to any sort of conclusion.

As far as I am concerned this whole thing might not have happened until I see another couple of sources.

sqeaky commented on C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'   slashdot.org/submission/1... · Posted by u/jamesy0ung
knorker · 9 months ago
> jump into wild nonsense conspiracy theory or extreme bigotry.

Did they? The commenter was referring to "Simple Sabotage Field Manual", by the CIA. It's a very commonly cited list of actions to take, or that someone would take, to impede the effectiveness of an organization.

The commenter was not saying "CIA did it, and birds aren't real".

sqeaky · 9 months ago
Yeah appealing to that book is literally conspiracy nonsense when you're talking about a group of engineers trying to do good engineering. That appeal fundamentally means that there are people trying to actively sabotage a thing, that by itself is a conspiracy theory particularly when you consider that much of the standards committee has been doing standardization work for ages, and all of them are experienced engineers focused on engineering.

Prima facie claiming that people who are joining an optional group that puts out optional rules that companies can opt into implementing for the sake of sabotaging something in such an esoteric way is complete conspiracy nonsense.

Edit - LOL, step one of my conspiracy and get a PhD and work at a company for 10 years using a programming language so I can get someone kicked off an optional committee! Brilliant plan, no notes!!!

sqeaky commented on C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'   slashdot.org/submission/1... · Posted by u/jamesy0ung
anonnon · 9 months ago
> Interesting that you did not choose to voice your opinions using your main accounts on that community then

Yes, it's interesting that someone opted to use an alternate account to discuss a contentious issue on a platform rife with censorship and deplatforming.

sqeaky · 9 months ago
Why does it so often seem that the people complaining about censorship are the ones punching down?

Why is it so often someone's right to complain and make problems for others but never concern about people's right to be tolerated when they're being decent humans?

Either people need to be banned who insult others and use slurs and those who maliciously push right up against the rules, or they will bully people out. Look at modern X/Twitter allowing hate speech has pushed out advertisers and something like half of the users?

This is basic Paradox of Tolerance stuff, decent people aren't Banning anyone for pointing out actual arguments like discussing if "question" is okay, asking for extra context if this guy did something else or if this is council overreach. But people complaining about wokeness, DEI, diversity hires, or other technically allowable but obviously hostile nonsense are clearly just trying to attack other people and often in ways that are racist dog whistles. If people insist on being hostile up to the amount allowable by the rules instead of just trying to get along then the rules need to keep changing and adjusting and of course the people who are willfully choosing to be assholes will scream "censorship". Before teaming up with someone complaining about censorship be sure they're actually at risk of censorship and not just trying to use Free Speech as a shield to hurt others.

sqeaky commented on C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'   slashdot.org/submission/1... · Posted by u/jamesy0ung
taylorius · 9 months ago
Those were my thoughts exactly - though it is 2024, and I have a sinking feeling it could be just as the article states.
sqeaky · 9 months ago
The article clearly has gaps simply by not being an hour long read on the Atlantic, one obvious gap is that it doesn't seem to have a statement from the person removed after they were removed.

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sqeaky commented on C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'   slashdot.org/submission/1... · Posted by u/jamesy0ung
sqeaky · 9 months ago
The last few times I've seen technical groups kick someone out over racism, including anti-semitism, they picked one point where the person kept doubling down after a very long history of borderline rule following behavior that was clearly malicious. I would be very surprised to see if this was different.

While I agree in principle that we can't allow the word question to be destroyed by hate speech, there are always assholes who ride up to some line to be dicks to someone using whatever the boundaries of the rules are. I want to know what happened here and if that was the case.

sqeaky commented on AMD now has more compute on the top 500 than Nvidia   nextplatform.com/2024/11/... · Posted by u/rbanffy
nwgo · 9 months ago
It does not matter. AMD is shit when it comes to low-level processing, their algos are stuck that go nowhere. Nvidia is killing it. There is a reason why Zookerberg ordered billions in GPUs from Nvidia and not from AMD.
sqeaky · 9 months ago
This is just silly fanboyism, there are pros and cons to each.
sqeaky commented on Earth Could Be Alien to Humans by 2500 (2021)   scientificamerican.com/ar... · Posted by u/benchmarkist
karmakurtisaani · 10 months ago
I the discussion about climate change we often forget that by not decreasing emissions we create truly great shareholder value.

Seriously though, we were supposed to decrease emissions by 40% by 2030 to keep things under control. I recently saw in the news that we are on track to just make it to 2% drop. It's not looking good.

sqeaky · 10 months ago
Somehow I thought it was still on the rise, this is not the worst news I've heard this week.
sqeaky commented on Sega is delisting 60 classic games from Steam   arstechnica.com/gaming/20... · Posted by u/mariuz
snoman · 10 months ago
I’m sure a judge will agree with you.
sqeaky · 10 months ago
I don't think it matters if the judge agrees with me.

Cases will be brought before judges based on money. Big pirates that are somehow making money doing it will be brought in front of a judge and some love will impact them.

Anybody hypothetically pirating one steam game to play for themselves because they felt alienated by Steam isn't going to be dragged in a judge.

sqeaky commented on Sega is delisting 60 classic games from Steam   arstechnica.com/gaming/20... · Posted by u/mariuz
tertle950 · 10 months ago
Piracy is the one true frontier for games preservation. If it's not on Steam or GOG, it may be the only feasible way to experience a game.

I believe "abandonware" is the correct term

sqeaky · 10 months ago
And because Valve made it clear that purchasing doesn't provide ownership then piracy can't be theft.

u/sqeaky

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