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shubham22 commented on Show HN: Automate complicated manual business processes   tooljet.com/workflows... · Posted by u/mrjn
Eddygandr · 2 years ago
Maybe this should be settled Musk v Zuck style for the internal tooling crown?

On a more serious note how does this compare with Retool? I remember that doing the HN rounds in 2019 and it’s still going

shubham22 · 2 years ago
haha, not interested. Sometimes it is okay to bow out of an online conversation :) Retool and ToolJet are building in the same problem space of internal tooling. Primary difference is that ToolJet is open source. And btw, we launched in March 2021.
shubham22 commented on Show HN: Automate complicated manual business processes   tooljet.com/workflows... · Posted by u/mrjn
impish9208 · 2 years ago
How does this compare to something like Camunda?
shubham22 · 2 years ago
Never got a chance to explore Camunda. Feel free to share you thoughts if you have used it.
shubham22 commented on Show HN: Automate complicated manual business processes   tooljet.com/workflows... · Posted by u/mrjn
rubenfiszel · 2 years ago
(Windmill Founder here)

Windmill allows you to write code in any places but we have a hub augmented every day with pre-made integrations so that you do not have to: https://hub.windmill.dev. We also have native support for BigQuery, Snorflake, Mysql, GraphQL, with dedicated editors.

Hence, I fail to see how it would be any faster to build workflows in tooljet than in windmill. I do not have a business license of tooljet so I have not been able to do the comparison. Interested to hear feedbacks on that.

Our workflow engine and UX seems to be a lot more advanced from what I can see because we have been iterating on it for longer. Congrats on the launch though and may the best open-source alternative to Retool win.

shubham22 · 2 years ago
I have not tried the product in depth but this comes from your website headline where it says “Turn scripts into .... “. But great to know you have inbuilt integrations now. Best of luck, may the best internal tooling platform wins.
shubham22 commented on Show HN: Automate complicated manual business processes   tooljet.com/workflows... · Posted by u/mrjn
Brillaughte · 2 years ago
As a non dev, I'm doing every of my front and back with chatgpt code interpreter and it's working fine. I ask him to create a simulation to test each part of his code and modify until it work.

The issue with low codes tools is that I cannot ask gpt to do stuff for me, and I have the risk that gpt cannot help me as he don't know the tool.

shubham22 · 2 years ago
Can’t say for all low code tools but if you consider ToolJet, you can build apps using drag and drop UI builder and doing customisation in UI. You really don’t need GPT once you get a hang on it. Ofcourse, experience can be further improved using GPT but that is not real value as of today. Compared to GPT powered traditional development, ToolJet’s approach is still faster.

IMHO, real value is when you can extend/customise ToolJet using custom code or database queries. And this is where GPT can help. We even have a inbuilt Copilot for these use cases.

shubham22 commented on Show HN: Automate complicated manual business processes   tooljet.com/workflows... · Posted by u/mrjn
wanderingmind · 2 years ago
Can you tell us what tooljet help me do faster and better than other tools like budibase or windmill?
shubham22 · 2 years ago
Budibase’s workflow product has been around for a while and we are directly competing with each other. We have our own strengths but would be difficult to say if we or them are better at this stage.

Windmill is a great product too but it is totally pro-code and building workflow with it, one has to write a lot of code compared to ToolJet. Hence, ToolJet would be definitely faster here.

shubham22 commented on Show HN: Automate complicated manual business processes   tooljet.com/workflows... · Posted by u/mrjn
thelittleone · 2 years ago
Interesting. How is this different to the likes of make.com and process.st?
shubham22 · 2 years ago
ToolJet is a full stack platform for building internal tools where automation is one part of it. We also support creating web applications and have a data store.

While make.com is focussed just on automation but for all kinds of use cases and not focussed on solving internal tooling problems for the companies.

However, process street does look focussed on building software for internal applications but it is more towards no-code spectrum which has its advantages but makes it less customisable. ToolJet, on the other hand is more customisable and developer friendly because of our low-code approach.

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