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shaan1 commented on India bans TikTok, WeChat, and dozens of other Chinese apps   techcrunch.com/2020/06/29... · Posted by u/samdung
Barrin92 · 5 years ago
banning the usage of WeChat for public officials or national defense companies and so on would make some sense, I fail to see however how TikTok is a security threat. It's just a response to the clash over the border and nothing else, and not really a particularly effective one at that.
shaan1 · 5 years ago
have you ever wondered why China blocks all apps from other countries ?
shaan1 commented on India bans TikTok, WeChat, and dozens of other Chinese apps   techcrunch.com/2020/06/29... · Posted by u/samdung
shaan1 · 5 years ago
I think this is a good move. With China banning apps from other countries, its right for India to do. We should be doing the same thing in the US
shaan1 commented on Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott   reuters.com/article/us-fa... · Posted by u/hhs
shaan1 · 5 years ago
They will come right back to Facebook in some months. No one ever remembers these things.
shaan1 commented on Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after Tiananmen event   axios.com/zoom-closes-chi... · Posted by u/surajama
dang · 5 years ago
Please stop breaking the site guidelines. Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome here. Insinuations of brigading and other abuses are not ok (because the vast majority of the time, people are simply making them up to explain something they noticed and disliked). Going on about downvotes is also against the rules.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

shaan1 commented on Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, including non-paying   blog.zoom.us/wordpress/20... · Posted by u/jmsflknr
crazygringo · 5 years ago
Unfortunately, I have to post this comment again, from just 3 days ago [1]. Also remember that Eric Yuan is an American citizen, not a Chinese citizen. He switched. Original comment:

When will this meme die?

Zoom is NOT a Chinese company. It is incorporated in and headquartered in the US. Like any American company ever, it follows US laws in the US, and local laws in other companies where it operates. End of story.

Yes their culture certainly has stronger cultural internal ties to China, due to the number of Chinese employees, but what has that got to do with anything? At the end of the day, they're a public, profit-driven corporation trying to make lots of money across the entire world.

It's not like they're secretly and nefariously doing the CCP's bidding, which seems to be the veiled suggestion people keep making.

Seriously, every time someone brings up that Zoom is "really" a Chinese company, it comes across as borderline racism or conspiracy-mongering or both. And while I'd usually never comment on someone using a throwaway account, in this case when you're pushing these kinds of shady "stronger than the more-commonly-discussed" insituations, I think using a throwaway here is representative of exactly the kind of astroturfing that spreads malicious rumors without evidence.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23510886

shaan1 · 5 years ago
Dude, you need to think first. Handing over data to CCP ? thats genocide.
shaan1 commented on Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, including non-paying   blog.zoom.us/wordpress/20... · Posted by u/jmsflknr
admax88q · 5 years ago
Yeah what the fuck, that was some weird casual racism you don't expect to see on HN.
shaan1 · 5 years ago
no, its not racism. Almost all independent American company is banned in China. Thats racism. Google, FB..etc..etc.
shaan1 commented on Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, including non-paying   blog.zoom.us/wordpress/20... · Posted by u/jmsflknr
jatone · 5 years ago
ignoring the quote for a second we know a few things about this CEO and zoom.

1. zoom's application is sending data to Chinese servers separate from the application functionality servers.

2. the CEO is from china, I'm going to assume he has relatives in china.

3. we know CCP is a completely fucked up government with an absolutely horrible history of civil rights violations, genocide, etc.

I wouldn't put it past CCP to be pressuring the CEO by threatening relatives who live in china. this wouldn't be unheard of for CCP.

add the the unnecessary data transfer to chinese servers makes it look really bad.

its a fairly reasonable conclusion to draw that the CEO is compromised if all the above holds true.

more extreme conclusions could just as easily be drawn from that same data that he is literally a foreign agent for china.

shaan1 · 5 years ago
Very true.
shaan1 commented on Zoom to bring end-to-end encryption to all users, including non-paying   blog.zoom.us/wordpress/20... · Posted by u/jmsflknr
reaperducer · 5 years ago
Another way of looking at it is that Zoom is learning from its mistakes and making improvements that the market demands.

I'm no Zoom fan (I'd even use BlueJeans first), but people on HN are always so eager to crucify a company for its past. If it made mistakes, get out the tar and feathers! If it doesn't fix those mistakes, get out more tar and feathers! If it fixes the mistakes, even more tar and feathers!

shaan1 · 5 years ago
This is not right. As a responsible company, they should know better. Regarding China, they have always been sidestepping the main question. They knew from the start that CCP will be intercepting calls. As an american company, this is a blatant disregard for people's trust. and its not an american thing to do. If you had friends or family who are routinely subdued in China, you will know what I am saying.
shaan1 commented on Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after Tiananmen event   axios.com/zoom-closes-chi... · Posted by u/surajama
shaan1 · 5 years ago
Has anyone noticed, if you mention chinese, you actively get your point decreased by one point.

u/shaan1

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