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ASalazarMX · 4 months ago

What a question. Obviously I'm all for it to use cryptography in their communications, and It's ridiculous that I have to spell out that I object to the cryptocurrency bros peddling their ecoins all across the board. People there are so desperate to convert electricity into millions of USD.

sebastix · 4 months ago

Do you need a token to use ngit? Where does it say you need cryptocurrency to use the protocol?

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khimaros · 4 months ago

and another: https://radicle.xyz/

sebastix · 4 months ago

Thx for sharing, didn't know that one.

After reading https://radicle.xyz/guides/protocol my first impression it's the same as how it works with Nostr with one key difference in the conceptual model. Nostr uses relays to distribute the data and Radicle is using a gossip model to distribute the data peer-to-peer (the bittorrent model).

They do explain the difference with a federated model. I miss the explainer compared to a relay model.

So regarding the peer-to-peer modal, here are some thoughts: How IPFS is broken: https://fiatjaf.com/d5031e5b.html Why IPFS cannot work, again: https://fiatjaf.com/b8e2f959.html

sebastix commented on Gitworkshop.dev – Collaborate on code over Nostr gitworkshop.dev/... · Posted by u/sebastix

sblom · 4 months ago

Both technologies (cryptocurrency and nostr) are very cipherpunk—I'm not particularly surprised that they draw overlapping crowds.

Another take on decentralized source control with more of an emphasis on "federated" and less of one on "censorship resistant": https://tangled.org/

sebastix · 4 months ago

To me ATProto has not proven yet to be really distributed / decentralized. In terms of "censorship resistant" you can also think of a 100% uptime of your code / work (your repository). Or always available for anyone with a internet connection. In the context of a federated network (aka fediverse), that's often not the case (if a federated instance is unavailable, many assets will be missing leading to a unuseable application or service).

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ASalazarMX · 4 months ago

Nostr is attractive as another decentralized social network, but crypto has tainted it so much that you can't dissociate the two, and that is not attractive at all.

sebastix · 4 months ago

What crypto? Cryptocurrency or cryptography? This first one is optional to be used with the protocol. The second not (see NIP-01 https://nips.nostr.com/1).

sebastix commented on Nostr nostr.com/... · Posted by u/dtj1123

digitalbase · 6 months ago

I think this is a real problem of "an open network". Disgusting people will find the network and abuse it.

There is a very insightful thread on nostr about it -> https://asknostr.site/question/note1lhvk3kkmaev6qzlpzzns69vw...

The top voted answer was

> Relays have to become more whitelisted and less open, and clients have to implement outbox model and stop relying on 2 or 3 big relays, then we can just stop worrying about this.

sebastix · 6 months ago

> I think this is a real problem of "an open network". Disgusting people will find the network and abuse it.

Question. Do you prefer open or closed networks? I'm sure you are aware that the internet is an open network.

sebastix commented on Nostr nostr.com/... · Posted by u/dtj1123

lukaslukas · 6 months ago

I don't understand. Can someone explain it to me from a technical/IT perspective? Is it like HTTP or JSON, or like XMPP...?

"An open protocol with a chance of working" = ?huh? "Nostr doesn't subscribe to political ideals of "free speech"" = ???huh? "BEEP BOOP" ???wtf??

Please don't explain technical things as if you were talking to children. Explain them as if you were talking to a colleague sitting next to you. Talk to them as a person and as a professional.

sebastix · 6 months ago

You can have a look at https://how-nostr-works.pages.dev/#/pathological which is also mentioned on the website somehere quite hidden

sebastix commented on Nostr nostr.com/... · Posted by u/dtj1123

dbushell · 6 months ago

A big misconception I've seen is the assumption that Nostr relays are federated and share messages between one another. This is not how it works. So if you're building a "Twitter clone" the client app must search multiple relays and post to multiple relays. If clients are not using a relay in common they cannot see one another.

The end result is a bad experience for both user and developer. Using a single relay is centralised and defeats the point. Using multiple relays is slow and cumbersome and requires the user to know/care which relays they are connecting to.

When I played with Nostr a couple years ago the "NIPs" were already a complete mess. Later NIPs supersede earlier NIPs changing how clients are supposed to interpret messages. At least some are flagged as "unrecommended: deprecated" now.

sebastix · 6 months ago

Relays can federate. The point is that Nostr as a protocol is saying nothing about this and does not care either.

I'm running an indexer (a relay) which federates with other relay indexers. Similar how activitypub relays work. Any client can connect to indexer to help bootstrapping and find metadata around events. There are many ways to discover stuff from clients even without being connected to the same relay.

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sebastix · a year ago

https://njump.me/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqpnrnguxe8qszsshvgkvhn6q...

https://www.piratewires.com/p/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mik...