sayonaraman (u/sayonaraman)

sayonaraman commented on Statement from Mark Zuckerberg facebook.com/login/web/... · Posted by u/jaredwiener

Aritch89 · 4 years ago

Hey, can you help me understand why you consider the comments and media around this statement a blatant lie? Im absolutely in support of people speaking their mind, especially in today’s culture but Im not sure why the public opinion of there being legitimate effects from social media on people, specifically Facebook, would be a blatant lie in your eyes?

sayonaraman · 4 years ago

what they call "divisive and extremist actions" that need to be censored is basically anything which doesn't agree with their political ideology. It's a direct attack on free speech.

sayonaraman commented on Statement from Mark Zuckerberg facebook.com/login/web/... · Posted by u/jaredwiener

zestyping · 4 years ago

This is exactly the point Frances Haugen is making, and it's why this is so different and so much more significant than the other Facebook scandals and leaks in the past.

Haugen repeated over and over again her testimony today that Facebook is full of smart, thoughtful, kind, well-intentioned people, and that she has great empathy for them, even Mark Zuckerberg. Her point is that they have created a system of incentives that are inexorably leading to harmful outcomes. It is not about good and evil people, it is about the incentives. It's exactly as you are saying.

That's why she is not advocating to punish Facebook for being evil, but rather to force Facebook to reveal and permit research so we can understand the system and fix it, because Facebook is too deeply trapped in its own tangle of incentives to fix itself. In this I think she is absolutely correct.

sayonaraman · 4 years ago

How is giving access to user data for "research" is better than that whole data privacy scandal with Cambridge Analytica.

these days research comes with a set of politically charged assumptions, for example the definitions of "hate speech" and "misinformation" are different based on which political camp you ask

So giving access to Cambridge Analytica is bad but to some other partisan "think tank" is fine? who would make those decisions?

sayonaraman commented on Statement from Mark Zuckerberg facebook.com/login/web/... · Posted by u/jaredwiener

cracell · 4 years ago

Ok...

First off there's no way Zuckerberg wrote this. Might've been involved but these are the words of a marketing team working with a legal team.

Secondly why do you see Zuckerberg as a great CEO?

sayonaraman · 4 years ago

so many CEOs would come back with tail tucked between their legs when there is an aggressive PR attack, it's so refreshing to see someone unapologetic for a change, standing their ground against blatant lies and angry mobs with pitchforks. This gives hope in the American future.

sayonaraman commented on Statement from Mark Zuckerberg facebook.com/login/web/... · Posted by u/jaredwiener

sayonaraman · 4 years ago

These are words by great CEO, fight these baseless accusations in court like you would fight any slander. These witch hunts must stop.

sayonaraman commented on Facebook whistleblower hearing: Frances Haugen testifies in Washington – live theguardian.com/technolog... · Posted by u/spzx

jjulius · 4 years ago

>That's what America is about, greed, the pursuit of happiness, whatever you call it, everything else is noise.

The pursuit of happiness is not greed. What qualifies as 'happiness' is entirely up to each individual, and for many people that doesn't include being greedy.

sayonaraman · 4 years ago

well as the success of the US economy shows, those greedy capitalists create millions of jobs and goods and increase overall "happiness" of millions (of perhaps less greedy) people.

Greed and free markets make for a healthy society.

As a counter-example see what happened with the Soviet Union, I can tell you first hand that didn’t work very well. Demonizing "bourjois" values of private property and prosperity, while fetishizing the “common good” and all-controlling government made the entire society very unhappy (except for a few fat bureaucrats) and led to its eventual collapse.

sayonaraman commented on Facebook whistleblower hearing: Frances Haugen testifies in Washington – live theguardian.com/technolog... · Posted by u/spzx

jjulius · 4 years ago

>Greed is good...

You say this as though there aren't any downsides to greed.

>The current climate is caused by a failure of government to step in and intervene, not by the industry caring about profit above all else.

No, it's both. Full stop.

sayonaraman · 4 years ago

I don't think you can argue with Gordon Gekko " that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit..."

And btw this forum is hosted by one of the most prominent venture capitalist firms in Silicon Valley which funds thousands of (promising) capitalists.

That's what America is about, greed, the pursuit of happiness, whatever you call it, everything else is noise.

sayonaraman commented on Facebook whistleblower hearing: Frances Haugen testifies in Washington – live theguardian.com/technolog... · Posted by u/spzx

sayonaraman · 4 years ago

time to buy more FB shares

when a company leaves the headlines it's time to sell.