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rhelz commented on Tenure Eliminated at Oklahoma Colleges   insidehighered.com/news/f... · Posted by u/bikenaga
MPL44 · 6 days ago
Not entirely sure this is a good idea...
rhelz · 6 days ago
It is a very bad idea. The reason which people who stand in judgement over other people (e.g. judges, teachers, professors, etc) are granted tenure is to make them less tempted to bribery.

One way which professors are bribed these days is to do pay-for-play research papers. A particularly good vehicle for this is "meta-analysis." There are meta-analysis papers which purport to prove that, say, masks don't help stop an airborne-transmitted disease, or that vaccines don't work or are actually harmful....

Garbage in, sprinkle some "meta-analysis math" and...garbage out in sheep's clothing.

In a system which is so cutthrought, and in which brining in research grant money is so prioritized, the temptation to do these sorts of dishonest papers is very high.

Without tenure, there is no end to this kind of pressure. Professors will never feel comfortable pursuing long-term research, or even useful short-term reseaarch.

rhelz commented on 430k-year-old well-preserved wooden tools are the oldest ever found   nytimes.com/2026/01/26/sc... · Posted by u/bookofjoe
shakna · 14 days ago
All I've done is speak where the evidence leads. They didn't live light and leave hardly a trace - they lived a very long time ago. Few weapons are designed to last millenia.

Dismissing half of academia's findings with a wave of your hand and an alternate speculation is... Leaning on speculation.

You said specifically "We have no evidence of warfare between the species."

I showed that to be incorrect. I followed the evidence, where you followed your gut.

> The vast majority of Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals would go their whole lives, generations, without even seeing a member of the other species.

This is an absolutely ridiculous assertion, and entirely speculative. We have Neanderthal DNA intermixed with our own. For it to be possible, then the numbers intermixing cannot be some one in a lifetime event - its a global phenomena.

We have evidence of war, trade, and sex. There is no great division that these people rarely met.

That's akin to saying the Chinese never meet the Americans.

But to go further than just genetic history, Tinshemet Cave and Nesher Ramla show that we traded and lived together. (Which incidentally are neither in Europe nor Asia). We built societies together. We were not nearly as isolated as you speculate.

> Theories of the "uncanny valley" and raids by women-raping, spear-throwing humans are fanciful, and say a lot more about what our psychological hang ups...

No. Flatly no. It speaks to the consistency of human history. Our ability to trace genetic legacy, is not because of a psychological hangup.

The Rape of Nanjing was not a one time moment. And machine guns are hardly spears. The Crusades through the Middle East did not leave behind no legacy. Kidnapping prizes was the norm for so very long, it was a norm of our mythology. Who was Helen of Troy? How did the Chu marry his wife?

Why did the Assyrians put record of these spoils into stone? Anyone who disregards the massive historical evidence that mankind has always raped its way through war, is one who is utterly blind to all evidence before them.

Saying homo sapiens kidnapped Neanderthal woman, and vice versa, is not a claim of intelligence. It is an understanding of historical behaviour.

... All of our evidence points towards not homo sapiens and Neanderthals doing things. Rather, it points towards people acting as people. Tribal boundaries, but not species. They made war, crime, love and trade. They were people.

rhelz · 8 days ago
// I showed that to be incorrect. I followed the evidence, where you followed your gut. //

Even the authors of the original article didn't claim this was evidence of conflict between the species. They only claimed that it was evidence consistent with conflict between the species.

You are extrapolating far, far, beyond what the evidence would support.

There's one bone which is fractured in a way which is *consistent* with its being caused by a homo sapiens-style rock hitting it.

And nobody is claiming that we never got into the pleistocene version of a bar fight. Of course we did. Perhaps the bone mentioned in the article you cited was the result of such a fight. Perhaps not.

We have no evidence whatsoever of war between the species. None. Zero. A bar fight is not a war. And we have absolutely no evidence of any kind of genocidal berzerking. Any attempt to recruit the Assyrians or the rapists of Nanjing is anachronistic. That kind of warfare requires social coordination on the a scale which we wouldn't even invent until the Assyrians.

sigh it is an easy mistake to make---the evidence is consistent with what you want to believe. Therefore, it must support what you believe. :-( You have to resist the temptation. The more you want something to be true, the more suspicious you should be that it isn't true.

rhelz commented on 430k-year-old well-preserved wooden tools are the oldest ever found   nytimes.com/2026/01/26/sc... · Posted by u/bookofjoe
shakna · 19 days ago
> We have no evidence of warfare between the species.

Thats not correct.

We have a neanderthal slain by spear, at a time and place where it was only carried by modern humans. [0]

This isn't a singular event. We have a history on injuries consistent with war, on both sides.

Yes, we "sheboinked". We also took women as prizes of war and raped them. As humanity has continued to do for most of their history.

Sure, the story is probably more complex. Some tribes at war, others at trade. Some who intermingle, and others who raged. That's... Just history of a people. That's normal.

But we absolutely have a history of war between the species.

[0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00472...

rhelz · 15 days ago
Thanks for the reference, and I don't want to overstate my case. I'm certainly not claiming that there was no conflict between varieties of humans, after all, Homo Sapiens has plenty of conflict with itself. Oetzi, for example, died of arrow wounds.

The cited article certainly is evidence of conflict. The Neanderthal's bone lesion was consistent with the kinds of bone lesions on pig carcases from projectile weapons, so perhaps even interspecies conflict. Maybe.

But the original claim, that Homo Sapiens conducted some kind of uncanny valley-fueled genocide of every other variety of human, is not supported by the article. "Injuries consistent with war" are also injuries consistent with with not-war. I mean, if we had a single example of a neanderthal bone with an arrowhead in it....but we don't.

// We also took women as prizes of war and raped them //

There is absolutely no evidence of this. You've got to remember, every single Neanderthal fossil we've ever found could fit on a large dining room table. They lived light on the land, and left hardly a trace.

There probably was only on the order of 10k Neanderthals alive at any one point, and that population was spread over all of Europe and half of Asia. The vast majority of Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals would go their whole lives, generations, without even seeing a member of the other species.

We can speculate, but that's all it is, speculation. Theories of the "uncanny valley" and raids by women-raping, spear-throwing humans are fanciful, and say a lot more about what our psychological hang ups are. Cf. with historical speculations about Neanderthals as brutish and stupid. Any theory which gets too far ahead of the evidence has a very short shelf life.

rhelz commented on 430k-year-old well-preserved wooden tools are the oldest ever found   nytimes.com/2026/01/26/sc... · Posted by u/bookofjoe
JumpCrisscross · 19 days ago
> sounds all very unsubstantiated. Speculation it seems to me

What part of the study strikes you as unsubstantiated?

rhelz · 19 days ago
Every part is unsubstantiated. For starters, for the vast majority of H. Sapiens existence on earth--from 300,000 years ago to about 45,000 years ago, we shared the world with 4 or 5 other hominids that we know about. (Neanderthal, Denisoven, H. Luzonensis, H. Floresiensis, and still perhaps a few H. Erectus, and no doubt even more we haven't found yet.)

That's 250,000 years of coexistence. We know that we sheboinked with at least two other species, probably more, because we still carry their genes to this day. So much so that it couldn't have been just a sheboink or two; we sheboinked over extended periods of time, i.e. we formed families with Neanderthals and Denisovens.

We have no evidence of warfare between the species. I.E. We have found no Neanderthal skull with an arrowhead in it, for example. Besides the fact that we are the only ones left, I don't see any substantiation at all.

It is a mystery why they are not still here. But the last 50,000 years, since the end of the last Ice Age, has been very hard on human species, for some reason. We are the only humans left, what every got them might get us too if we let it.

rhelz commented on Why smaller houses can lead to happier lives   washingtonpost.com/climat... · Posted by u/pseudolus
rhelz · a month ago
Smaller salaries can lead to happier lives. Lower standards of living can lead to happier lives. Spending less on food can lead to happier lives. Less education can lead to happier lives.

There's just so much valorization of poverty going on.

rhelz commented on U.S. plan to 'run' Venezuela clouded in confusion   washingtonpost.com/nation... · Posted by u/doener
cdrnsf · a month ago
Everything this administration is clouded in confusion because it's comprised of people whose incompetence is matched only by their cruelty.
rhelz · a month ago
Plucking a head of state and his wife out of a military compound and whisking them away to NY, without losing a single vehicle or soldier's life, is the opposite of incompetence.

I am no fan of the current administration, but we just have to stop thinking about them as incompetent. They are incredibly competent, they just don't have any particular interest in helping out 99% of the population.

rhelz commented on An opinion piece about a definition of consciousness   docs.google.com/document/... · Posted by u/Trenthug
__patchbit__ · a month ago
Mary should experience `blindsight' on encounter with the red rose having lived her life entirely in black and white.
rhelz · a month ago
I don't understand, can you expand/explain?
rhelz commented on An opinion piece about a definition of consciousness   docs.google.com/document/... · Posted by u/Trenthug
rhelz · a month ago
:-( I really don't want to be negative here, but really, the essay gets off on the wrong foot almost immediately. Propositional knowledge, i.e. knowledge which is described by true/false statements, just cannot be conscious experience.

Jackson's thought experiment sets this up. Mary has lived her life entirely in a black and white room, has never seen any other colors. But she's put the time to good use: she has learned every true proposition about how the brain works, how it processes dolors, even detailed descriptions of the neural processes which give rise to the conscious experienced of color.

After this, somebody at long last brings red rose into the room. Question: has Mary learned anything? Answer, no. By hypothesis, she already knows every true proposition about her present experience of the rose.

But what she does have is a non-propositional conscious experience which she's never had before. This has to be the correct answer, because of the work of another Philosopher, Wilfred Sellars. His (in)famous essay "Empiricism and the Philosophy of Mind" gives a knock-down argument that conscious experiences of things like color cannot have propositional content. They are not like sentences, they are more like rocks and trees, i.e. real objects, but they cannot be true or false, and therefore they cannot be propositions.

Alas, reading the essay "Empiricism and the Philosophy of Mind" is a journey that many start, but few finish :-( It is very definitely the hardest thing to understand that I ever read. But indeed, it does inescapably prove that proposition just can't be used to make conscious experiences.

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rhelz · a month ago
Why do these sorts of screeders never remember that China is an explicitly Marxist country? Like, with 5 year plans and everything?
rhelz commented on How We Found Out About COINTELPRO (2014)   monthlyreview.org/article... · Posted by u/bryanrasmussen
anonymars · 2 months ago
"Why don't Americans protest?", everyone wonders...

Edit to clarify: perhaps the various sentiments described in the replies didn't come about entirely organically

rhelz · 2 months ago
Can't speak for everybody, but maybe it has something do with hundreds of thousands of us being laid off, and we're just too busy trying not to go under.

u/rhelz

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