rditooait (u/rditooait)

rditooait commented on Mastering Chess and Shogi by Self-Play with General Reinforcement Learning arxiv.org/abs/1712.01815... · Posted by u/dennybritz

sillysaurus3 · 8 years ago

Uhh... These games are actually broken. From the second link: https://imgur.com/a/P5tG6

See for yourself:

https://lichess.org/Zqwn4Gzk#87

https://lichess.org/Zqwn4Gzk#88

EDIT: Nope, I'm just a noob.

rditooait · 8 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_passant

rditooait commented on Facebook – You are the Product lrb.co.uk/v39/n16/john-la... · Posted by u/rditooait

olympus · 9 years ago

I'm here to fix some ignorance, since the source of the "you are the product" idea is not these books.

Metafilter user blue_beetle first put this idea online when he said "If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold" in response to the Digg revolt of 2010. The idea apparently existed for a few decades prior regarding TV advertising. I prefer to think blue_beetle was the one who brought it into the zeitgeist.

http://www.metafilter.com/95152/Userdriven-discontent

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/07/16/product/

Edit: Alex3917 posted a similar idea on HN on 6 May 2010, beating blue_beetle by a couple months. Gotta give credit where it's due: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15030959

rditooait · 9 years ago

Sorry - I want to make clear that the point of sharing this article on HN is not to give credit to who came up with this concept. I simply want to start (or continue) discourse on this particular subject.

To be honest, this isn't even just about Facebook, I'm sure you could have the same argument about the majority of today's tech companies who are commoditizing information about users and using that to monetize.

Generally, though, this is a trend that is not slowing down, instead it's rapidly speeding up. In addition to that, the methods have become increasingly worse. I'd like to continue discourse on methods of combating this particular phenomenon.

rditooait commented on Facebook – You are the Product lrb.co.uk/v39/n16/john-la... · Posted by u/rditooait

sametmax · 9 years ago

I read more and more articles and comments about things we've been saying for years. How come you wake up now and say that like it's a surprise ?

rditooait · 9 years ago

I agree that this particular article probably doesn't introduce any new ideas into conversation. However, I think it's important to continue dialogue on methods of action to combat this phenomenon. Realistically, while there are more and more articles and comments like this, the fact of the matter is that Facebook's growth and monetization is not slowing at an appreciable rate at all, and their methods have not substantially changed (if anything, they have changed for the worse as they concentrate more and more on monetization).