Meanwhile Tesla CEO does proud, casual, nazi salutes, while his president friend brags about stealing elections in Pennsylvania.
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We're all complicit.
I'm going to do my job the same way as always. History will come to its own conclusions.
This sort of flare-up always feels absolutely critical in the moment—how can one possibly justify not dropping everything to orbit around it?—and then vanishes. Their half life is so brief that I'm surprised people don't notice how ephemeral they are. They come in an endless sequence, and they aren't what HN is supposed to be for. They're also not that hard to resist; it's not as if this is a borderline call.
I would agree in a lot of cases.
But we aren't all complicit at the same level.
I know it's how Trump and Elon work: they make outrage after outrage, crime after crime, so that one shadows the other, we can't keep track, we get exhausted, etc.
But there has to be a tipping point, or we just boil like frogs in the fascism saucepan.
If this is not the tipping point, what will it be? A proud, intense, in-your-face nazi salute, the day of the inauguration. If your tipping point is when they finally come after you, you'll be all alone. It's textbook 1930s Germany.
You seem to be saying there will be no tipping point for you. People wonder how the darkest moments of history happened, and how people let it happen.
This is how.
HN's principle is to have intellectually curious conversation about topics that gratify intellectual curiosity. It seems pretty obvious that this isn't that.
History is watching, and you are complicit.
How long are you going to justify censoring anyone against the Grand Free Speech Absolutist?
What is going to be _your_ red line?
qsdf38100 commented on Elon Gives Nazi Salute During Inauguration Speech youtube.com/watch?v=e2bbb... · Posted by u/LightBug1
It happened gradually. I realized that an 80 year old man that is that hateful even after life gave him miracle after miracle (god gave him everything), is just a bad force.
There is a foul wind in the air, and I finally accept it. I can smell it.
Thank god. I would love to discuss with you, maybe we could save some poor souls that are still into this from turning to full blown fascists.
qsdf38100 commented on Elon Gives Nazi Salute During Inauguration Speech youtube.com/watch?v=e2bbb... · Posted by u/LightBug1
I am astonished. I wondered my whole life how Nazism could have possibly happened, how cooler heads didn’t prevail.
We got here a day at a time. Don’t promote this guys shit ever again if you have any self respect.
Color me changed, I was wrong about this Trump thing. It’s all real, all of this happening.
Edit: Do not flag this post. Casual nazism, jingoism, corruption is too serious to say we are above discussing this.
I'm glad to know that some Trump supporters do have red lines.
Out of curiosity, up to when did you still support Trump?
qsdf38100 commented on · Posted by u/qsdf38100
Yes. Did you see the earlier clip where he says they rigged it, explicitly?
No I didn't. In the same rally?
qsdf38100 commented on · Posted by u/qsdf38100
Given that Trump actually won Pennsylvania by 2%, he's casually bragging about something that isn't actually true - at least the "in a landslide" part isn't true.
But then, Musk knowing vote counting computers better than anyone isn't true either (though Musk may be arrogant enough to think it is).
So I think this is just Trump throwing out fact-free hot air that he thinks makes him look good.
Musk may not know vote-counting computers better than anyone else, but he certainly has the influence and leverage that would greatly help with such a task.
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