Readit News logoReadit News

Deleted Comment

prvit commented on European countries begin taking down public company registers after ruling   ft.com/content/e4b31a4e-a... · Posted by u/ilamont
dang · 3 years ago
We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33804753.

(This is not about the parent comment—I'm just posting a reply here for clarity because the other post is already several days old.)

prvit · 3 years ago
I'll just clear my cookies, change my VPN exit and continue posting. What's the point?

Dead Comment

prvit commented on European countries begin taking down public company registers after ruling   ft.com/content/e4b31a4e-a... · Posted by u/ilamont
shadowgovt · 3 years ago
> When an individual has registered a car and is enjoying the right to operate a 6000 lbs death machine on public roads, why do they need their name hidden?

It's not. They carry a driver's license and law enforcement can reference their name by license plate.

prvit · 3 years ago
But that information isn’t public, it’s only visible to law enforcement.

This is how company ownership information should be treated too.

prvit commented on European countries begin taking down public company registers after ruling   ft.com/content/e4b31a4e-a... · Posted by u/ilamont
from · 3 years ago
"Kleptocracy" results in net wealth transfer from corrupt African and former Soviet countries to Europe and America. Why should I be mad about that?
prvit · 3 years ago
Because the Guardian says so.
prvit commented on European countries begin taking down public company registers after ruling   ft.com/content/e4b31a4e-a... · Posted by u/ilamont
wbl · 3 years ago
So that everyone can assess the character of the people running the charity.
prvit · 3 years ago
This is a solved problem, you can simply refuse to work with charities that don’t share such information.
prvit commented on European countries begin taking down public company registers after ruling   ft.com/content/e4b31a4e-a... · Posted by u/ilamont
7952 · 3 years ago
Because an actual human person needs to take responsibility and be accountable. That is the job of a director. The buck has to stop somewhere.
prvit · 3 years ago
So? The name of that person doesn’t need to be public for the courts to be able to hold them accountable.
prvit commented on European countries begin taking down public company registers after ruling   ft.com/content/e4b31a4e-a... · Posted by u/ilamont
7952 · 3 years ago
The legitimate purpose is choosing to not trade with a company owned by a particular person. And that facility should be open to anyone without having to jump through hoops.
prvit · 3 years ago
I really can’t see how your interest in not doing business with companies owned by people you like could possibly outweigh every business owners privacy interests.
prvit commented on European countries begin taking down public company registers after ruling   ft.com/content/e4b31a4e-a... · Posted by u/ilamont
shadowgovt · 3 years ago
Land was an example, not an exclusive example.

A service address isn't sufficient to, for example, easily piece together that one private owner has quietly purchased 70% of some town's resources, especially if they've done so via a collection of shells. And most legal actions against such abuse generally start grassroots; regulators aren't aware there's a problem until people complain.

Hiding information from the public makes it harder to notice abuse.

Flip the script: when an individual has incorporated and is enjoying the legal protections of being a corporate entity, why do they need their name hidden? What value in the society of granting them that privilege when they are enjoying legal protections and privileges not enjoyed by all members of society?

prvit · 3 years ago
When an individual has registered a car and is enjoying the right to operate a 6000 lbs death machine on public roads, why do they need their name hidden? What value in the society of granting them that privilege when they are enjoying legal protections and privileges not enjoyed by all members of society?

The real question you have to answer is “Why is it necessary for company ownership to be public information?”

> A service address isn't sufficient to, for example, easily piece together that one private owner has quietly purchased 70% of some town's resources, especially if they've done so via a collection of shells

What’s wrong here? Even with a perfect UBO registry that private owner could just get together with a couple of their buddies and divvy up that 70%.

What legal action are you going to take? Owning 70% of a town’s resources is generally not against the law.

prvit commented on European countries begin taking down public company registers after ruling   ft.com/content/e4b31a4e-a... · Posted by u/ilamont
sam_lowry_ · 3 years ago
It is kind of obvious, no?
prvit · 3 years ago
Not at all. A company could be a one man shop which only does business with one other company, it’s not obvious why that would be more of a public activity than just being directly employed by a company.

u/prvit

KarmaCake day879June 6, 2022View Original