Readit Newsponderatul commented on Boeing Believed a 737 Max Warning Light Was Standard nytimes.com/2019/05/05/bu... · Posted by u/aaronbrethorst
Sure, but they are still responsible for the effects. That we can't forget.
Ignoring the complex system they have created is their fault
I'm mostly worried about soy and generally, this human interventionism.
Where you take something that has been with us for 2000 years and replace it with something else, on which it's impossible to have the same amount of data.
ponderatul commented on Why Be Honest If Honesty Doesn’t Pay (1990) hbr.org/1990/09/why-be-ho... · Posted by u/midef
Actually I tried the other way around: never being a jerk, never lie or cheat. But I couldn't manage: people take advantage of you and you get frustrated.
Now, building strengh, characters, and participating to alternatives to the status quo are better long term strategies.
But on the short term, always playing by the rules is a serious disadvantages in some environments.
Same here, there's a lot to the idea of ying and yang.
ponderatul commented on Why Be Honest If Honesty Doesn’t Pay (1990) hbr.org/1990/09/why-be-ho... · Posted by u/midef
That's a pretty stupid way of living. But hey, don't mind me, I'm old..
There is no balance to be attained in being a jerk/cheater or whatever. It's like saying: I have the option of breathing or not breathing, so let's get a good balance. No!
If you want to learn from bad people: Do it, but use it for good. For example in identifying people who are bad, or want to take advantage of you/others. But certainly not to get a balance.
And btw, I always hope, people with questionable opinions get screwed by someone with the same questionable view. Let's hope you'll learn your lesson.
It's really hard to discuss nuance here. But for someone who is proud of his moral superiority, you sure didn't try to see where I was coming from.
I'd say it's a layered thing. You start with the right core, but you layer some of these bad characteristics on top. Depending on your environment, you will have to deal with different kinds of people.
Your example is exactly what I mean by balance. But there are more. But itt difficult to showcase my point when your response just leaks out moral superiority, as if you know the backstory to these opinions.
Looking at the relationship between Trump and the media vs any "good guy" and the media. He can, would and did say everything he wanted, and no one batted an eye, it moved no one. Fundamentally a lot of people already thought he was bad, or that he says shit.
But take your "good guy" Joe. That if his image was built on pure goodness, one slip, one mistake and the press would be all over him.
What I'm trying to see is that the arsenal of weapons ( physical, mental) at a bad person's disposal is larger than a purely good person's.
And that is maintained with scale. I'm looking at the weapons bad politicians have and use, vs those that the purely good ones have at their disposal. Especially when the former have power.
There's more to this. But it's hard to have a discussion with someone, who can't see that some of the things bad people do, have a place in this world, and can be employed for a better purpose.
ponderatul commented on Why Be Honest If Honesty Doesn’t Pay (1990) hbr.org/1990/09/why-be-ho... · Posted by u/midef
When I was in my twenties, I realized it was easier to get laid by being an asshole, so I did just that.
After a while, it hit me: this strategy made me deeply unhappy.
With time I observed a lot my mental process, mood and behavior, and I noticed that things like being rude, cheating, being selfish, etc. while paying off on the short run, were affecting my long time happiness.
Apparently I was not made for that.
Lying, is one of those things. I can lie. I'm actually a very good lier, and a decent actor.
But I keep it in check, doing it mostly because humans tolerate badly total honesty, or sometime because I'm weak. Otherwise I avoid it, not for moral reason, be because somehow, I find it strongly unsatisfying. It's not even a judgemental voice in my head stating that it's wrong. It just feels like writting with the left hand with a boxing glove: I can do it with training but it's just not the experience I wish for.
I met many people sharing the same experience, but I can't say everybody feels like this.
However, it seems a damn good reason to be honest, even when it doesn't pay.
I am in my twenties. I feel the same, just not sure about the negative effects on longterm happiness.
I'm sure there's a balance there to be attained. But knowing you are capable of lying, being a jerk, cheating and what that gives you, is very powerful.
In general I think there's a lot to learn from bad people. Which is an idea lot of people dismiss.
It's not the same anti-evolutionary guude promoted by the EAT foundation is it?
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"Approval is a helluva drug". And like any drug we need to overcome it. Quit cold turkey, so we can see it for what it is. Sure, you can dip yourself into it from time to time, but you'll be less of a victim. We have enough of those already
They have to shut Monsanto down and sentence the decision makers.