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poetaster · 3 months ago
Yipee! Ok, I can't afford more hardware, but it's my favourite mobile os and I develop/maintain apps for it, so I'm happy to see the amount of effort Jolla has put in in the last 2 years to stay relevant and up their game!
poetaster commented on SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes   sailfishos.org/info/... · Posted by u/ForHackernews
MayeulC · 4 months ago
Most of these are actively maintained though. Older ports, such as UT2004, still work but a few upgrades give a much better experience: SDL2-compat (and now SDL3-compat) really helps, as it brings compatibility with newer APIs (pulseaudio, Wayland, newer controllers, etc).

Please use SDL when targeting Linux!

poetaster · 4 months ago
Exactly! SDL2 apps run well on SFOS :)
poetaster commented on SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes   sailfishos.org/info/... · Posted by u/ForHackernews
shmerl · 4 months ago
I doubt that's their way of feeding them. At one point they explicitly said they'll do it, but never did.
poetaster · 4 months ago
Not true. Gradual but slow progress. https://github.com/sailfishos

They also recently split the automobile UI part off from the Phone bits. That joint work was part of the problem for FOSSing everything, since they have deals with Car manufacturers which depend on their IP.

poetaster commented on SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes   sailfishos.org/info/... · Posted by u/ForHackernews
dredmorbius · 4 months ago
What distinguishes, say, a mobile OS from a more traditional desktop OS?

What would not be acceptable in a tuned/configured Linux / Windows OS on a smaller-form-factor touch- and voice-enabled device?

I'm excepting the obvious issue raised elsewhere of closed app stores and the tendency for ever more interactions (commercial, government, educational, institutional) to rely on these. That discussion has been had many times and is if I may suggest relevant, but stale.

poetaster · 4 months ago
The main distinguishing feature is that you generally lack a keyboar / mouse /pointer thing. Hence, the window manager and interaction in general are tuned for touch interactions, single handed use and the like.

It's for this reason I like SFOS. I've tried android and ios. But they suck.

As a developer, I also appreciate the flexibility even within the limits. Gradle and co. suck.

poetaster commented on SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes   sailfishos.org/info/... · Posted by u/ForHackernews
zer0zzz · 4 months ago
I thought this was vaporware?
poetaster · 4 months ago
I've also been using hardware that some of the Jolla team worked on 20+ years ago. N9, N900 to currently Sony and Volla/Gigaset devices.
poetaster commented on SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes   sailfishos.org/info/... · Posted by u/ForHackernews
cultofmetatron · 4 months ago
there's an easy roadmap to make this popular.

make it so that I can dock it and use it as a full fat OS on a desktop. If they wanna market this as an open phone, they need to make it first class as a primary computing device. so far only samsung is willing to enter this territory with a glorified chromebook.

if I could install the rust toolchain and vscode on it and use it in a customizable desktop environemnt by plugging it into a USBC monitor, you bet I'd buy it. Id happily pay 1-2k+ euros for it.

Sadly as is, it functionally does less than my locked down iphone so whats the point?

poetaster · 4 months ago
There are a number of rust developers building for SailfishOs. Rubdos maintains a Signal client in rust. The toolchain also runs on the build service maintained by Jolla (obs). I'm not sure what the editor has to do with it. I use vim for most of my SFOS development but sometimes use the SDK, sometimes I use Godot.
poetaster commented on SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes   sailfishos.org/info/... · Posted by u/ForHackernews
rchaud · 4 months ago
Access to the Play Store requires the proprietary Google Play Services code, so I doubt this has it. The alternative would be installing apps via APK files.
poetaster · 4 months ago
People often use micro-g and co.
poetaster commented on SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes   sailfishos.org/info/... · Posted by u/ForHackernews
willi59549879 · 4 months ago
Sailfish OS looks nice. but i am not sure if their strategie for applications is the way to go. Applications need to be specifically built for Sailfish OS with their IDE which uses Qt.

That means you can't run just any linux software on it.

poetaster · 4 months ago
Nope. You can use SDL2, which is behind the Godot port for Sailfish (3.5 still). Supertuxcart, Openlara a bunch of games stuff is viable. There is an active Lua Love porter and and and ...
poetaster commented on SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes   sailfishos.org/info/... · Posted by u/ForHackernews
ho_schi · 4 months ago
Does anyone know if Jolla ever published the full source-code? The promised back in 2013.
poetaster · 4 months ago
They've been opening up bit by bit. First stuff like 'jolla-weather', recently, the notes app and numerous bits in the backend ... Currently sync for nextcloud system integration is in the works.
poetaster commented on SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes   sailfishos.org/info/... · Posted by u/ForHackernews
mariusor · 4 months ago
There is a beta OS release which I think can be used for free. As far as I know there are still hardware issues with it.
poetaster · 4 months ago
The hardware issues are camera related. As in the camera is not operational. They are working on it. Sigh.

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