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plastiquebeech commented on France fines Microsoft €60M for imposing advertising cookies   rfi.fr/en/france/20221222... · Posted by u/reaperducer
jefftk · 3 years ago
CNIL release: https://www.cnil.fr/fr/cookies-sanction-de-60-millions-deuro..., and decision: https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/cnil/id/CNILTEXT000046768989

Reading it in translation, seems they identified the following as breaches:

1. When you visited bing.com they always dropped an ad fraud detection cookie.

2. After clicking around on bing.com, without clicking yes on any of the banners, it would drop an ads cookie.

3. On their cookie banner, rejecting took two clicks while accepting took one.

On 1, Microsoft argued that detecting ad fraud was "strictly necessary" for running bing.com, but the court disagreed, saying that advertising is not a service requested by the user. (point 53 in the full decision).

On 2, Microsoft said it was an accident and had already stopped, though not before CNIL asking them about it

On 3, Microsoft argued that (a) rejecting was not actually required to be as easy as accepting and that (b) since the default was no cookies and it took a click to get cookies that rejecting was easier than accepting. The CNIL disagreed on both.

plastiquebeech · 3 years ago
Interesting. One quirk of browsing sites with JS disabled is that the cookie banners rarely show up. Often, they are implemented as scripts loaded from a site like "cookielaw.org".

I've long suspected that these sites default to dropping cookies when my consent is neither asked for nor received, as MS appears to have done here.

It's good to hear that such behavior is probably illegal in the EU.

plastiquebeech commented on Even the FBI says you should use an ad blocker   techcrunch.com/2022/12/22... · Posted by u/mikece
officeplant · 3 years ago
In my experience even the add-ons I can find for Safari on iOS rarely do what they say they will do. Nothing ever works as well as ublock origin on a desktop browser and it so frustrating. Having mobile firefox + ublock is one of the few things I still miss about android.
plastiquebeech · 3 years ago
Same. I tried to switch to iOS about a year ago, but I ended up returning the device after spending over $50 on highly-rated ad/script blockers for Safari, and finding that none of them really worked.

Back on Android, my daily life is blissfully bereft of ads, except when I visit somewhere with live TV. It's a shame, because Apple makes some great pieces of hardware, but I won't be back until they loosen up on controlling the software that I'm able to run on my devices.

plastiquebeech commented on What Happens When a Group of 12-Year-Olds Left with No Supervision for 5 Days?   kottke.org/22/12/boys-gir... · Posted by u/zdw
jmoak3 · 3 years ago
Film crews were there with them in person, silently walking around and filming?

Did they also train the kids to ignore the crews and not stare into the cameras lol

This just seems goofy.

plastiquebeech · 3 years ago
It's not feasible to do a real "Lord of the Flies" experiment on purpose; not even the notoriously sociopathic world of reality TV producers could get away with that.

If you have adults watching and ready to spring in at a moment's notice, the kids will limit their behavior to what they think they can get away with.

If you don't, there's a good chance someone will get seriously hurt or killed.

Not surprising that they (or maybe their underwriters) picked the first option.

plastiquebeech commented on O Holy Crap   thefp.com/p/an-elegy-to-a... · Posted by u/RickJWagner
bitexploder · 3 years ago
Check out the history of light bulbs, an actual amazing conspiracy few people know about :)
plastiquebeech · 3 years ago
Might be worth mentioning the name of the conspiracy: the Phoebus Cartel.

It sounds cartoonishly evil, but "cartel" is just an economic term for a market where a small number of participants collude to control supply and pricing. Like OPEC.

https://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/the-l-e-d-quanda...

IMHO, we should be more aggressive about converting industries which gravitate towards cartels into regulated natural monopolies, like power/water supplies. Some kinds of markets really are more efficient with fewer participants, and we should find ways to encourage that efficiency without letting the lucky winners indefinitely dictate the terms of the market.

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plastiquebeech commented on We are drowning in information while starving for wisdom (2021)   realizeengineering.blog/2... · Posted by u/rzk
clarge1120 · 3 years ago
Before the real internet came and killed the forums, the weird bearded guy would lurk on the forums. He's the guy who makes you answer general questions like,

"Why would you want to do that?"

"What's this for?"

"Did you try searching before asking such a stupid question?"

plastiquebeech · 3 years ago
Those are the same questions that people ask on SO, although the respondents aren't exclusively men with beards.

OP bemoaned how people on StackOverflow would tell you not to do what you're asking about. Reference material is not the cause of that "weird bearded guy" problem, but it is one possible solution.

We're talking about software developers, not wizards. It's not like you have to offer a dram of blood and draw a pentagram with salt before you approach the ancient grimoires.

plastiquebeech commented on We are drowning in information while starving for wisdom (2021)   realizeengineering.blog/2... · Posted by u/rzk
kuroguro · 3 years ago
Marginally related (software?) rant: every time I want to learn how something specific works or I want to do something oddly specific I keep running in the same phenomenon. Google mostly returns vague abstract fluff and Stack Overflow tells me it really, really shouldn't be done because [reason]. It's like most of human written content caps out at about the level of description ChatGPT could deliver. Like there's a "knowledge event horizon".

After that it always ends in hard to parse research papers, specifications, jumping around the source code of multiple libraries, debugging or reverse engineering. If I get lucky I might land on a 15 year old blog post that no man has seen since inception and it describes exactly what I wanted to know.

And that's just software. Humans know exactly what parts went into it and how it works. Why must wisdom always be squeezed out of a rock? Why is only the fluff copied thousands of times making research harder each day? Why are there never indicators which way to dig for more details?

T__T

plastiquebeech · 3 years ago
When I was young, we didn't have StackOverflow or Google. We had to hike through snow to access the internet at all, uphill both ways!

In those days, we would usually read the manual when we needed to dig past a surface-level understanding of how things work. The manuals are dry and dense, but they're much easier to read with modern niceties like "Ctrl+F".

IMO, this is one of the reasons that people recommend using software with a long track record. If you have a question about some parameter in a systemd service script, and the internet doesn't have a ready made answer, the details are all written down in the manual.

https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man5/systemd.service.5....

Plenty of modern tools have comprehensive detailed docs like this. Python, Go, even most widely-used JS frameworks. The primary sources are often downranked in search engines because they don't sell ads, but it's a good idea to find and bookmark them when you start working with a new technology. RTFM!

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