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password11 commented on Documentary spurs a new look at the case of the first gene-edited babies   theconversation.com/did-h... · Posted by u/Brajeshwar
lajy · 3 years ago
> It's pretty easy to monitor a handful of test subjects with heritable mutations and make sure they don't reproduce

So just to be clear, what we're talking about here is a protocol for performing eugenics on humans that were bred as part of an experiment, right? And ethically, that isn't a hang-up for you?

password11 · 3 years ago
> what we're talking about here is a protocol for performing eugenics...

No. What we're talking about is if it's ethical to essentially create a race of monster-people by altering their DNA.

GP is saying, no way it's ethical, because if they have offspring it would be unethical. I'm saying maybe it's as ethical as current medical science, as long as you sterilize them.

You're the only one talking about eugenics.

> ethically that isn't a hang-up for you

Look, ethics is in its core, a public affair. Ethicists are primarily concerned whether general people will find XYZ acceptable, and why or why not.

For me personally, I'm not concerned with academics. I'm concerned with whether I feel it's right or wrong in my personal view. Is genetically altering humans ethical in my personal view? No.

password11 commented on Reverse engineering a mysterious UDP stream in my hotel (2016)   gkbrk.com/2016/05/hotel-m... · Posted by u/nop_slide
gambiting · 3 years ago
Sure, and to circle all the way back to the original point several posts up - why is this a deterrent to someone pulling a fire alarm but not for someone sending a fake UDP broadcast? The penalty will be exactly the same.
password11 · 3 years ago
Harder to track down the person. Unless the hotel is logging every packet on its network and paying to archive the TBs of encrypted video streaming data that goes through every day. And it's a purely local network, so not like the NSA can help out.

Edit:

"Unauthorized" computer access is a serious federal crime under the CFAA, and that you did it as a joke is not a legal defense. Famous examples:

(1) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz

(2) the Florida man who social engineered Twitter (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Ivan_Clark)

(3) the Mirai botnet guys (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirai_(malware)), etc.

So the penalty will actually be much worse if you get caught.

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password11 commented on Reverse engineering a mysterious UDP stream in my hotel (2016)   gkbrk.com/2016/05/hotel-m... · Posted by u/nop_slide
gambiting · 3 years ago
Right, that protects the hotel from liability, but it does nothing to protect the hotel from such false alarm happening in the first place.
password11 · 3 years ago
The threat to the perpetrator -- of 90 days prison time and a permanent criminal record of being a mischief-maker -- prevents people from pulling the alarm.

Same way sheepdogs herd sheep.

password11 commented on Physics and Mathematics Self-Study Project   diegovera.org/projects... · Posted by u/JoeDaDude
dopu · 3 years ago
I agree with you about it being broken. We’re so focused on grades because they are a believed to be an important part of the credentialing process for getting jobs. An ideal learning environment would likely be something closer to Plato’s academy, imo. Probably not possible under capitalism except for the very rich with a lot of leisure time.
password11 · 3 years ago
> We’re so focused on grades because they are a believed to be an important part of the credentialing process for getting jobs.

Various colleges (ex: Reed, Brown) in the U.S. don't have grades. Their graduates do just fine, afaik.

In defense of grades, they are a good extrinsic motivator for learning boring subjects. Grades are a good consequence for phoning in it. I would probably have skipped reading most of the books I was assigned to read in school if there were no consequences, and would have ended up an (even) less educated person if not for grades.

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password11 commented on Reverse engineering a mysterious UDP stream in my hotel (2016)   gkbrk.com/2016/05/hotel-m... · Posted by u/nop_slide
gambiting · 3 years ago
>>Do you think hotels aren't protected, to some extent

How are they protected against that, exactly? You can literally walk up to any fire emergency button on any wall on any floor, press a button and evacuate the entire hotel, why bother with this UDP streaming nonsense?

password11 · 3 years ago
> How are they protected against that, exactly? You can literally walk up to any fire emergency button on any wall

Cameras near fire alarms and it's a crime in the U.S. to give a false alarm.

u/password11

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