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nosuchthing commented on I Visited Bucha Today   amazonredshiftresearchpro... · Posted by u/Max-Ganz-II
qaq · 3 years ago
What does limiting who can leave the country during war time have to do with corruption? The narrative of Ukraine loosing most western weapons was started by Russia and then they dropped it since UA advance was clearly showing them to be total BS.
nosuchthing · 3 years ago
Zelensky gets more money the longer the war drags on. If Ukrainians are allowed freedom to exit to safety, then Zelensky and the oligarchs will not reep as much donations.

Interpol chief is Russian??

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapon...

lol you have no idea what you’re talking about.

nosuchthing commented on I Visited Bucha Today   amazonredshiftresearchpro... · Posted by u/Max-Ganz-II
_kbh_ · 3 years ago
I’m motivated to refute Russian propaganda. Something you seem motivated to spread. The quote was the only part that talked any solid numbers about aid to Ukraine, so how can you even make and analysis.

You also never mentioned the quote is from the very start of the war and how the situation of supplies is very different now.

nosuchthing · 3 years ago
CBS is America, not Russian? The history of Ukrainian political corruption predates the war from Russia.

Russia is a corrupt aggressor, but that does not mean Ukrainian abuses should be ignored. Zelensky is not allowing Ukrainian citizens the freedom to leave the country for safety.

How is it different now?

nosuchthing commented on I Visited Bucha Today   amazonredshiftresearchpro... · Posted by u/Max-Ganz-II
hbrn · 3 years ago
I have yet to see evidence that Ukrainian military has more neo-nazis than any other military in the world. Or even more than Russian military.

You do realize that nazis are militaristic by nature, so having them join military is not surprising at all?

Plenty of russian neo-nazis have been openly participating in Russo-Ukrainian conflict since 2014, noone supporting Russian side seems to bat an eye.

Here's just one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusich_Group

Or maybe take a close look at Wagner Group founder tattoos: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvQaxRgXAAAKEWt.jpg

Those aren't convenient Nazis, are they?

nosuchthing · 3 years ago
Ukrainian government has been renaming their streets to honor nazis like Stephan Bandera.

https://youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5OzBa8ntEns

Here's Biletsky (the founder) in March saying Azov had at least 40,000 fighters. https://www.ft.com/content/7191ec30-9677-423d-873c-e72b64725...

Here's a list of Azov units incorporated into the military, including 5 battalions and 2 regiments. https://militaryland.net/news/the-units-of-azov/

Azov also includes organizations not officially part of the military including Centuria (formerly the National Militia) and Youth Corp.

Azov is also not the only Nazi militia, there's Aidar, the child rapists of the Tornado battalion (freed by Zelensky) and many more.

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nosuchthing commented on I Visited Bucha Today   amazonredshiftresearchpro... · Posted by u/Max-Ganz-II
_kbh_ · 3 years ago
This story was retracted by CBS because it turned out to be hugely misleading and is no where near the truth about the situation today. Trying to pass it off as such is at best misleading and at worst actively malicious.

But even going down that path of thinking, it’s amazing Ukraine has decimated the Russian armed forces with only a fraction of the weapons they were supplied with!. /s.

nosuchthing · 3 years ago
The story was not retracted by CBS, they only removed a quote.

You seem motivated to hide corruption lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_mafia

nosuchthing commented on I Visited Bucha Today   amazonredshiftresearchpro... · Posted by u/Max-Ganz-II
dprice1 · 3 years ago
I was curious about these competing claims, so I googled for the answer.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/317337...

Dated Sept. 28, 2022

"In total, the United States has now committed approximately $16.9 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since January 2021. Since 2014, the United States has committed approximately $19 billion in security assistance to Ukraine more than $16.2 billion since the beginning of Russia’s unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24."

I'm not sure that all of the money/material has yet reached Ukraine. But that is what is said to be committed.

nosuchthing · 3 years ago
Most of the weapons given to Ukraine have been lost and unaccounted for.

CBS published this report on the missing weapons stolen by corrupt groups operating within Ukraine. Shortly afterwards they were forced to amend a statement that someone is trying to track the newer shipments, without explaining any sort of actual plan for accountability.

War is racketeering. https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZWzxbS8eUKc

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nosuchthing commented on I Visited Bucha Today   amazonredshiftresearchpro... · Posted by u/Max-Ganz-II
bigDinosaur · 3 years ago
Russia invaded Ukraine, Russia is the aggressor, and to be honest not only am I not engaging with you, I think this is fully bad faith. Russia is the one currently making existential, nuclear threats, too. In fact, reading responses like yours makes me hate Russia's actions even more - they've created so much propaganda that you can honestly write that somehow it's actually Ukraine's fault that they got attacked and invaded by Russia.
nosuchthing · 3 years ago
Prohibiting civilians from fleeing to safety as Zelensky has done is not good guy behavior.

The Far right militas took over the Ukrainian government after euromaidan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_Ukrainian_Nati...

Bandera groups have american cells operating as lobbyists https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/right-sector-usa

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