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naravara commented on Study: Social media probably can't be fixed   arstechnica.com/science/2... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
PaulHoule · 14 days ago
I work in survey research and I'm rather appalled at how many people would rather survey a sample of AIs than a sample of people and claim they can come to some valid conclusion as a result.

There are many ways AIs differ from real people and any conclusions you can draw from them are limited at best -- we've had enough bad experiments done with real people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment#Int...

naravara · 14 days ago
It doesn’t surprise me if they found that the emergent behaviors didn’t change given their method. Modifying the simulation to make them behave differently would mean your rules have changed the model’s behavior to “jump tracks” into simulating a different sort of person who would generate different outputs. It’s not quite analogous to having the same Bob who likes fishing responding to different stimuli. Sort of like how Elon told Grok to be “unfathomably based” and stop caring about being PC” and suddenly it turned into a Neo-Nazi Chan-troll. Changing the inputs for an LLM isn’t taking a core identity and tweaking it, it’s completely altering the relationships between all the tokens it’s working with.

I would assume there is so much in the corpus based on behavior optimized for the actual existing social media we have that the behavior of the bots is not going to change because the bot isn’t responding to incentives like a person would it’s mimicking the behavior it’s been trained on and if there isn’t enough training data of behavior under the different inputs you’re trying to test you’re not actually applying the “treatment” you would think you are.

naravara commented on Ozempic shows anti-aging effects in trial   trial.medpath.com/news/5c... · Posted by u/amichail
noah_buddy · 22 days ago
Many people (will only speak to America), view being fat as a literal moral failing. Gluttony or overeating are not the sin, but being fat.

(From that perspective:)a miracle cure that allows someone to stop being fat is like an indulgence (in the Roman Catholic sense). It’s a cheat, a shortcut that allows the unworthy to reach a state they do not deserve.

My opinion is to wait long enough to validate there are no long term harms, but beyond that, yeah, adjust the priors, it could be a modern aspirin.

naravara · 22 days ago
The weight loss mechanism largely just comes from suppressing appetite though, so it still lines up with the penance for sin narrative. It’s not that different from wearing a hair-shirt and whipping yourself if you find yourself having lustful thoughts. Only instead of a whip you just feel kind of uncomfortable and nauseous if you eat too much.
naravara commented on VHS, VCDs, and Laserdiscs in Southeast Asia   rubenerd.com/vcds-and-las... · Posted by u/mikece
naravara · a month ago
It’s a shame the evolution to DVD and later Blu-ray went with the VCD/CD size rather than Laserdisc sized discs. It was the right call for the time, that makes them much easier to transport and store and allowed the players to double as CD players and let game consoles double as blu-ray/HDDVD players. All huge perks to encourage adoption.

But now that we are entering a world where physical media is largely an enthusiast past-time I think something laserdisc sized is much better suited for appealing to geeky collectors as a “trophy” or collectible item. It’s more pleasing to flip through them, the size of the sleeve ends up functioning as a display poster. Commentary about “warmth” aside, it’s the same reason music nerds have revived vinyl, with even half the vinyl market consisting of people who don’t even own turntables and just listen to the music off the included digital download codes that come with the records. Plus, the sheer size would mean you can encode a LOT onto this hypothetical next-gen laserdisc before having to resort to compression and exotic layering tricks to increase data density like they do with these 8k Atmos releases now.

naravara commented on LLM Inevitabilism   tomrenner.com/posts/llm-i... · Posted by u/SwoopsFromAbove
bugbuddy · a month ago
I heard majority of the users are techies asking coding questions. What do you sell to someone asking how to fix a nested for loop in C++? I am genuinely curious. Programmers are known to be the stingiest consumers out there.
naravara · a month ago
The existence of the LLMs will themselves change the profile and proclivities of people we consider “programmers” in the same way the app-driven tech boom did. Programmers who came up in the early days are different from ones who came up in the days of the web are different from ones who came up in the app era.
naravara commented on LLM Inevitabilism   tomrenner.com/posts/llm-i... · Posted by u/SwoopsFromAbove
jsnell · a month ago
They'd be profitable if they showed ads to their free tier users. They wouldn't even need to be particularly competent at targeting or aggressive with the amount of ads they show, they'd be profitable with 1/10th the ARPU of Meta or Google.

And they would not be incompetent at targeting. If they were to use the chat history for targeting, they might have the most valuable ad targeting data sets ever built.

naravara · a month ago
If interactions with your AI start sounding like your conversation partner shilling hot cocoa powder at nobody in particular those conversations are going to stop being trusted real quick. (Pop culture reference: https://youtu.be/MzKSQrhX7BM?si=piAkfkwuorldn3sb)

Which may be for the best, because people shouldn’t be implicitly trusting the bullshit engine.

naravara commented on Congestion pricing in Manhattan is a predictable success   economist.com/united-stat... · Posted by u/edward
varispeed · 2 months ago
Amazing how pedestrian safety suddenly matters the moment it becomes a tool to justify purging the poor from city centres.
naravara · 2 months ago
If you own a car and use it to get around in Manhattan you’re not “poor.” The poor are riding the bus.
naravara commented on Congestion pricing in Manhattan is a predictable success   economist.com/united-stat... · Posted by u/edward
varispeed · 2 months ago
It is classist. If it was liberal, then it would be based on % of someone's wealth (and using progressive scale).

These policies are aimed at getting unwashed pleb off the roads so the rich can show off their cars in peace.

naravara · 2 months ago
It’s classist to not want pedestrians in cities to die and get asthma from traffic?

Got it.

naravara commented on Whatever happened to cheap eReaders?   shkspr.mobi/blog/2025/05/... · Posted by u/blenderob
int_19h · 3 months ago
There have been several takes on "Android phone with eInk screen" to date, e.g. https://minimalcompany.com or Kingrow K1. They are fine for reading but for some reason the form factor doesn't stick; or at least I haven't seen any model like that remain in business for long.
naravara · 3 months ago
Yeah all these “save your time and attention from your smartphone” value propositions run into the problem of just being shitty phones that end up being quite expensive. This goes for eInk phones as well as things like the Light Phone or that Humane Pin.

The fact is people actually just like their phones, and the main problem with them getting zombiefied staring at them comes from specific attention sucking brainrot apps. Aspects of hardware design can be a nudge factor but it’s not the main driver. The problem is TikTok, Instagram, et al and nobody wants to have a shitty phone experience when they could just block those apps. Compromising functionality runs into the problem where you get too much bycatch as most of the addicting functionality overlaps with stuff people want. I may not want apps or a screen but I want maps, and once you have maps and navigation you probably need a screen. Maybe I want to avoid video because I want to avoid TikTok but then I am searching for a How To guide and that ends up linking you to YouTube. I don’t want WhatsApp but I want to receive text messages, but once I’m in a group chat how different is that from WhatsApp?

I recently had this issue with notifications. I turn off notifications on everything except phone calls and messages. But I was trying to marketplace some items and it turned out I just couldn’t communicate with people without live messaging them on LetGo or the BuyNothing app or Facebook marketplace. But once I turned on notifications to get those messages suddenly they’re constantly spamming me with push notifications and emails trying to bait my engagement. The hardware is not the problem.

naravara commented on Whatever happened to cheap eReaders?   shkspr.mobi/blog/2025/05/... · Posted by u/blenderob
smeej · 3 months ago
One possible way to get them closer as cheap as paperback books might be to make them per book. Like, if you didn't need an OS or networking or anything but a charging port, because the thing only ran one app and came preinstalled with one book, you could theoretically get the cost way down.

The only market I can really think of for these would be airports, or maybe libraries, for something you'd borrow and give back shortly thereafter. But then I don't know how they'd be enough of an advantage over paper books to be worth it.

naravara · 3 months ago
My kid was recently gifted a Yoto Box which plays aIndio and he loves it. I can’t help but think that putting ebooks on scannable cards might be a seriously underrated form factor. At that point you don’t need a file browser, networking, or anything. You just need to be able to read text and images off the card.

The Yoto itself does need networking because the card is just an NFC tag that points to a file in a database somewhere that the player has to download. But something similar to a video game cartridge instead could probably work. IIRC a Nintendo Switch game cartridge costs about $10 per unit and in this use case you wouldn’t even need them to be that small so you could maybe get them cheaper.

naravara commented on Whatever happened to cheap eReaders?   shkspr.mobi/blog/2025/05/... · Posted by u/blenderob
joshstrange · 3 months ago
Am I crazy or is a $100 kindle not “cheap”? It’s not like it’s a single-use product. I don’t understand the desire for a $8 e-reader, it’s effectively a one-time purchase (maybe once every 4-5 years at worst?).
naravara · 3 months ago
Yeah my impression is that Kindles last basically forever. They’re like typewriters where you should just buy the nicest one you can afford when you need it and use it until it can’t be repaired.

IMO Kindles were best when they had hardware buttons so I have no interest in buying these new touchscreen ones.

u/naravara

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