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n_t commented on Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader pressprogress.ca/facebook... · Posted by u/toomanyrichies

n_t · 2 years ago

Since this will soon become heated and full of misinformation, here are some details-

1. PM Trudeau called emergency session over "credible" allegations but no actual evidence. The leader of opposition has also called out lack of evidence.

2. Canada expelled a key Indian diplomat but not nothing more - basically diplomatese - https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/18/americas/canada-hardeep-s...

3. India issued statement calling allegations as baseless and irresponsible - https://bit.ly/3EHtuwe

4. India too immediately booted out key Canadian diplomat. Diplomat was so angry he almost slammed car door on a journalist (https://x.com/ANI/status/1703997495318352108?s=20)

5. PM Trudeau seems to realize he has worsened relations with no credible evidence - https://www.reuters.com/world/canada-pm-not-trying-provoke-i...

As for background, India considers two countries as those which harbors terrorists active against India - Pakistan and Canada. Canada has harbored "Khalistani" terrorists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182) for long. Recently these "khalistani" (mind you, not Sikhs) have started threatening Indian diplomats (https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1676496624519122950?s=20) and attacked Indian properties and temples in Canada/UK. India recently started taking harder stance on push back on both Canada and UK for safety of it's nationals.

n_t commented on ‘Everything is gone’: entire Indian villages burned in ethnic violence theguardian.com/world/202... · Posted by u/lisasays

questime · 3 years ago

Why would Indian media be anti Hindu when the almost all of the 1. Electorate, 2. Government, 3. Corporations, 4. Media houses, 5. Rich are Hindu? I'd love to hear your explanation for that one. I don't disagree with your first point.

n_t · 3 years ago

Just one example from recent past. The Wire is considered "reputable" english online news source but multiple times they have been caught fabricating grave evidence (even criminal) to plant stories against BJP (supposedly Hindu political party). Here was their latest gaffe https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/23/23419366/the-wire-meta-i.... Had it been any other country, such outlet would have been criticized to oblivions if not under legal action. But no! they are still the doyens of truth :) If BJP (current ruling party) even sneezes in their general direction, your ears will fall off hearing about fascism in India, even on HN :D

n_t commented on ‘Everything is gone’: entire Indian villages burned in ethnic violence theguardian.com/world/202... · Posted by u/lisasays

selimthegrim · 3 years ago

You are aware that lunchroom canteen at the Hindu had strict vegetarian policy until recently and you’re telling me they’re biased against Hindus?

And speaking of WB please tell me who was killing all the Hindus at Marichjhapi?

n_t · 3 years ago

You referring to this? https://theprint.in/pageturner/excerpt/the-left-massacre-of-...

n_t commented on ‘Everything is gone’: entire Indian villages burned in ethnic violence theguardian.com/world/202... · Posted by u/lisasays

questime · 3 years ago

Why would Indian media be anti Hindu when the almost all of the 1. Electorate, 2. Government, 3. Corporations, 4. Media houses, 5. Rich are Hindu? I'd love to hear your explanation for that one. I don't disagree with your first point.

n_t · 3 years ago

Thanks for your question. Curiosity is first step towards knowledge. I wish I was eloquent enough to put decades of history in few words. Best I can do is point you towards this book https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57313237-sanghi-who-neve.... Note, anything even remotely exposing the issue will be immediately tagged as nationalist, BJP, RSS, Modi etc. The book only is about personal experience of one media person, and doesnt dig deeper into what brought media into this state. It can be starting point and you can follow the references further.

n_t commented on ‘Everything is gone’: entire Indian villages burned in ethnic violence theguardian.com/world/202... · Posted by u/lisasays

spprashant · 3 years ago

Okay please go ahead and tell me this isn't true.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/tolerant-muslims-can-be-coun...

This is an Union minister speaking at an RSS event.

This is neither the first nor the most vicious attack on India's biggest minority that I have heard of. This kind of rhetoric just seems commonplace today.

Full disclosure: I am an Indian too, living abroad now, but voted for the Modi government in 2014.

n_t · 3 years ago

We cant be more diametrically opposite. I was in US now in India and didn't vote for Modi :D But what does that link add to point I raised? Looking at Baghel's wikipedia page, he is typical politician jumping parties to be in power. He'll say whatever suits his position. And if you want to pin it on RSS, at least cite their chief's position instead of a politician who has nothing to do with RSSS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvR8Gy8TDsQ (same thing is what media typically does, use sound bites from unofficial sources).

My only request was to look beyond headlines which (I claim) are biased and do logical analysis. Not here to debate or convert your ideologies.

n_t commented on Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan netblocks.org/reports/int... · Posted by u/beast0001

anaganisk · 3 years ago

I was waiting for you to arrive, not you literally but some propaganda machine, I've moved to the US last year for higher education, and fortunately for me here I was able to meet a lot of Pakistani's. And not once did anyone say anything against India or me. In fact even the older generation was so thoughtful, and recognized our shared culture and history. And they were sometimes more friendly and less judgemental than fellow Indians here.

> Do you know what is officially taught in schools for India (and Hindus)?

Please enlighten me, how a govt controlled curriculum, doesn't affect what's thought in schools. Which is exactly what my point was and BJPs influence on NCERT in the past few years are no better.

If you come outside the bubble of propaganda between both the countries, you quickly realize how played the citizens of both nations are.

n_t · 3 years ago

There is a company called Google just for this. But you can begin digging the rabbit hole here, which has more links https://www.reddit.com/r/pakistan/comments/mpd7cm/pakistan_a...

@dang wants this to stop, so i'll respect that and wont be back in this thread. But do put a link from india's textbook which spews hatred against Pakistanis or muslims? Please enlighten me.

n_t commented on Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan netblocks.org/reports/int... · Posted by u/beast0001

dang · 3 years ago

Please do not take HN threads into nationalistic flamewar, or any other kind of flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

n_t · 3 years ago

I appreciate your moderation. This was not flame war, I even gave well cited references for OP to read. I also never attack anyone personally, but I do want them to be more informed.

n_t commented on Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan netblocks.org/reports/int... · Posted by u/beast0001

mey · 3 years ago

That doesn't preclude empathy for fellow humans, or wishing for a better future.

n_t · 3 years ago

Please don't obfuscate things here. Both OP and I are talking about Pakistani state. We all are aware that individual (particularly sane ones) have minimal control on government policies.