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morgankrey commented on Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based zed.dev/blog/pricing-chan... · Posted by u/meetpateltech

oakesm9 · 3 months ago

All makes sense. I presumed it was an oversight.

It’s hard for me to conceptualise what a million tokens actually looks like, but I don’t think there’s a way around that aside from making proving some concrete examples of inputs, outputs, and the number of tokens that actually is. I guess it would become clearer after using it a bit.

morgankrey · 3 months ago

Now live: https://zed.dev/pricing#what-is-a-token. Thanks for the feedback

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oakesm9 · 3 months ago

I completely get why this pricing is needed and it seems fair. There’s a major flaw in the announcement though.

I get that the pro plan has $5 of tokens and the pricing page says that a token is roughly 3-4 characters. However, it is not clear:

- Are tokens input characters, output characters, or both?

- What does a token cost? I get that the pricing page says it varies by model and is “ API list price +10%”, but nowhere does it say what these API list prices are. Am I meant to go to The OpenAI, Anthropic, and other websites to get that pricing information? Shouldn’t that be in a table on that page which each hosted model listed?

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I’m only a very casual user of AI tools so maybe this is clear to people deep in this world, but it’s not clear to me just based on Zelda pricing page exactly how far $5 per month will get me.

morgankrey · 3 months ago

List here: https://zed.dev/docs/ai/models. Thanks for the feedback, we'll make sure this is linked from the pricing page. Think it got lost in the launch shuffle.

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maxbond · 3 months ago

Will you consider providing a feature to protect me from accidentally using my Zed account after the $5 is exhausted (or else a plan that only includes edit predictions)? I can't justify to myself continuing my subscription if there's a risk I will click the wrong button with identical text to the right button, and get charged an additional 10% for it. I get you need to be compensated for risk if you pay up front on my behalf, but I don't need you to do that.

I understand that there's nothing you could do to protect me if I make a prompt that ends up using >$5 of usage but after that I would like Zed to reject anything except my personal API keys.

morgankrey · 3 months ago

Yep, you can set your spend limit to $0 and it will block any spend beyond your $10 per month for the subscription

https://zed.dev/docs/ai/plans-and-usage#usage-spend-limits

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jsheard · 3 months ago

> [Zed Pro is] not our core business plan

What is the core business plan then?

morgankrey · 3 months ago

https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed#introducing-deltadb-o...

morgankrey commented on Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based zed.dev/blog/pricing-chan... · Posted by u/meetpateltech

genshii · 3 months ago

I'm personally looking forward to this change because I currently pay $20/month just to get edit prediction. I use Claude Code in my terminal for everything else. I do wish I could just pay for edit prediction at an even lower price, but I can understand why that's not an option.

I'm curious if they have plans to improve edit prediction though. It's honestly kind of garbage compared to Cursor, and I don't think I'm being hyperbolic by calling it garbage. Most of the time it's suggestions aren't helpful, but the 10-20% of the time it is helpful is worth the cost of the subscription for me.

morgankrey · 3 months ago

We have a significant investment underway in edit predictions. We hear you, more soon.

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binwang · 3 months ago

Now I see little value in subscribing to Zed Pro compared to just bringing my own API key. Am I missing something?

morgankrey · 3 months ago

(I work at Zed) No, you aren't. We care about you using Zed the editor, and we provide Zed Pro for folks who decide they'd like to support Zed or our billing model works for them. But it's simply an option, not our core business plan, and this pricing is in place to make that option financially viable for us. As long as we don't bear the cost, we don't feel the need (or the right) to put ourselves in the revenue path with LLM spend.