As far as I have heard they have not actually secured partner access for themselves, they just got someone who has access to break their NDA.
The access comes from GrapheneOS' OEM partner who isn't breaking any kind of NDA.
Readit Newsmbananasynergy commented on Graphene OS: a security-enhanced Android build lwn.net/SubscriberLink/10... · Posted by u/madars
This is almost enough to make an Apple fanboy switch to android. Maybe I’ll get a second phone just to try it out. Which model would be best?
Anything 8th gen and later would be best, as those models support MTE which is a huge security feature not present on 6th or 7th gen hardware.
Our recommended devices can be found here:
mbananasynergy commented on Graphene OS: a security-enhanced Android build lwn.net/SubscriberLink/10... · Posted by u/madars
Not at all. They are one and the same. Both of those things will literally destroy the computer freedom we enjoy today.
GrapheneOS can attest to the device's security. The question is whether the app developers will trust such an attestation. Will they put money, time and effort into evaluating and trusting GrapheneOS? Of course not. They will just decide to trust nobody except Google and Apple.
This is the future. We'll be discriminated against. Can't even log into an account from an "unauthorized device". Their servers will just refuse to talk to our phones if they can't cryptographically verify that we have not "tampered with" them. We'll be refused service straight up unless our computers are straight up owned by corporations.
This so called "integrity checking" is meant to protect the corporations from us, not the other way around. It's so we can't do things like hack our way around their "policies".
Well, there are examples such as Yuh and Swissquote which are using Play Integrity API and also using hardware attestation to specifically allow GrapheneOS. The latter is in the process of implementing what's needed right now.
We also expect Google's Play Integrity API to inevitably be ruled as anti-competitive, which it is.
mbananasynergy commented on Graphene OS: a security-enhanced Android build lwn.net/SubscriberLink/10... · Posted by u/madars
Not automatic, but the GrapheneOS dialer supports call recording out of the box.
During a call, drag your buttons and they will scroll. The call recorder is the 7th button.
We recently made it so that the call recording option is not hidden away. If there are 7 options, it's RTT that will be the last one now, and we've made the scroll bar always be visible to make it clearer to people that they can scroll there.
mbananasynergy commented on Graphene OS: a security-enhanced Android build lwn.net/SubscriberLink/10... · Posted by u/madars
It's Discourse.
We use Flarum for our forum, but Discourse similarly only allows one to view forum posts without JavaScript enabled.
mbananasynergy commented on Graphene OS: a security-enhanced Android build lwn.net/SubscriberLink/10... · Posted by u/madars
Quite a lot of detail on this comment, thanks for that!
But I'm still left a bit confused about the future devices GraphaneOS will support:
Because you said discussion are being done with an OEM, will GraphaneOS switch from pixels to a different device?
You also said that not having the device tree won't be a major hurdle in building GraphaneOS for the future, does that mean we can expect the pixel 10 to have GraphaneOS or it's too early to know ?
Thanks again!
Pixel 10 will be supported by GrapheneOS provided it continues to meet our requirements - we'll know when it's out. It'll definitely take us longer than it has before.
A collaboration with an OEM doesn't mean we'll stop providing existing or future Pixels if they continue to meet our requirements.
mbananasynergy commented on Graphene OS: a security-enhanced Android build lwn.net/SubscriberLink/10... · Posted by u/madars
> This a video where he openly bullies someone, live streams their private messages where they're getting upset with him bullying them and repeatedly, blatantly lies about them including falsely claiming they're insane, etc.
That is the most disingeneous take on the video. The claim this kind of commenters that freely carry water for the toxic GOS (ex-?) lead developer is the exact reason why Rossmann made the video. The evidence is all there for the public to see. Daniel does not get to essentially harass people he disagrees with after they have been asked to not contact them, threaten them to "publicly expose them" and get away scott free.
Being a genius at cyber security or autistic does not give one a free pass to treat other like garbage.
> The video was made to direct harassment towards the project and founder after the project refused to work with Rossman.
The video was made to expose the harassment of the project founder toward Rossmann, when the former contacted him out of the blue with frivolous accusations after they parted way a year earlier due to un-reconciliable disagreements.
> He has done similar things to others, labeling them as insane and delusional.
No evidence provided, as usual.
>No evidence provided, as usual.
You should watch Rossmann's video on Linus - he has a habit of doing these hit pieces.
mbananasynergy commented on Graphene OS: a security-enhanced Android build lwn.net/SubscriberLink/10... · Posted by u/madars
Meh. Not all people have the strictest security (and privacy!) requirements. While it is admirable that GOS strives for perfection, I would be more than happy with a less secure, but repairable phone, such as Fairphone.
So just give me that alarm system for my tent, please. It will do fine for my case.
We don't really strive for perfection. Pixels aren't really perfect and there are numerous suggestions we could make today for Pixels to drastically improve their hardware. Our requirements are in some way below what even Pixels provide today.
Our requirements are not at all exotic or outlandish, the fact that most OEMs don't meet them says more about how far behind most OEMs are, rather than our standards being unrealistic. We've also been told that they're not unrealistic in practice from numerous OEMs who want to build a device that meets our requirements.
It is also important to note for Pixels specifically that since the 8th gen Pixels, they receive 7 years of support. Additionally, they partner with iFixIt to provide official replacement parts for the duration of the device's life. I'd say that's pretty sustainable, especially when you consider that the Fairphone doesn't actually provide proper support for the amount of years they claim, since they have consistent delays in providing patches.
mbananasynergy commented on Graphene OS: a security-enhanced Android build lwn.net/SubscriberLink/10... · Posted by u/madars
>Complete Bullshit. Provide links to the videos, otherwise that is another evidenceless attack and just confirms your pattern.
I assume you're not disputing that Rossmann has a verified Kiwi Farms account, that much is well documented.
The above video refers to a video by Destiny (https://youtu.be/ba383Zux0Mo) where he spends a bunch of time defending Kiwi Farms. Rossmann making a video about it and joking about "lolcows" is what has contributed to people at Kiwi Farms worshipping him, and his fan starting a thread about Daniel there where people tell him to kill himself.
Stop defending this stuff and finding every opportunity you can to try and gaslight others - it's weird.
Lots of banking apps don't work.
RCS has only just started working.
No "Find My Device" support.
Permissions model is difficult to understand - even I struggle with it.
Standard launcher has tiny icons which can't be adjusted.
Pop on to https://discuss.grapheneos.org/ and see the struggles which users have.
If people do not want to interface with those features, they can simply skip them, and the permission model will be the exact same as it is on Android.