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magicreadu commented on Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries   cnbc.com/2025/04/09/trump... · Posted by u/bhouston
lawlessone · 8 months ago
isn't this also kinda opposed to having the dollar as the dominant world currency?

Lots of countries settle trades between each other using dollars.

Making it harder to get those dollars will leave them seeking to use something else to trade.

magicreadu · 8 months ago
Having dollar being the worlds currency is not necessarily a good thing. Yes, you can borrow at low interests rate for a while. But guess what? Those are still debts. And eventually rates rise due to inflation. Now you have hollowed out your industrial base and you are stuck with tons of debts.

Even if dollar gets weaker, better to have less debts and more industrialization

magicreadu commented on Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries   cnbc.com/2025/04/09/trump... · Posted by u/bhouston
hayst4ck · 8 months ago
Incompetence is way more dangerous than people realize.

These tariffs are China's Four Pests campaign. Mao, a very trump like figure, decided to protect Chinese crops by destroying sparrows that were picking at them. Killing sparrows killed a predator of insects which did more damage to crops. This coupled with reality denying policies and ignoring experts led to one of the most devastating famines the world has ever experienced.

Hand waiving away this policy that denies reality and hurts America as a rational plan that went wrong is absolutely dangerous. Killing sparrows was "rational" in the same way these tariffs are. Authoritarians believe in power over reason. They do not like submitting to the authority of those who have studied problems because it is an attack on their own supremacy, so they fail to predict second order effects, which were likely obvious.

The damage this administration is doing to trust will be felt for generations. An agreement with America will have no value. No world leader will care what we say, they will only look at what we do. They will see power we have not as potentially being used for their own defense, but as a potential attack on their own sovereignty and they will wish to see us weakened so that they can spend less resources trying to determine our intentions.

magicreadu · 8 months ago
Both you and OP are not looking at this from the right angle. The goal here is to decouple US from China. In the meantime, tariffs are raised on every country to gauge which side they are on. Once US knows who the allies are, they will negotiate to have those allies put up massive tariffs on China as well to prevent transshipping.

US wants nothing to do with China. As the biggest consumer economy in the world, the have that right.

And China has shown that agreement with them has no value. Remember that China promised trump in term 1 to massively import US goods and reduce fentanyl, in part to slow trumps tariff down. They did neither of those things. Trump hasn’t forgotten that.

magicreadu commented on Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries   cnbc.com/2025/04/09/trump... · Posted by u/bhouston
Sgt_Apone · 8 months ago
Seems they reversed course on that. Or, they don’t know what they’re doing.

> It's been a confusing day.

> As Verity said, it turns out Canada and Mexico are not getting a new 10 per cent tariff after all.

> The White House reversed its earlier announcement in a new statement just now. Here's the bottom line: No new developments for Canada and Mexico today.

> That means there are still worldwide 25 per cent tariffs on steel and aluminum, on some auto parts in North America, and on some goods traded within North America outside the rules of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement on trade (CUSMA).

> The bottom line here: Trump is starting an economic war on China, and U.S. allies are all taking some friendly fire. But a large swath of Canadian trade is spared.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/livestory/trump-pauses-most-gl...

magicreadu · 8 months ago
They know what they are doing. The goal is decoupling from China. They raised tariffs on everyone to see which countries stood with US and which stood with China. Once each country has made their allegiance clear, they delay the deadline to give more time for negotiation. They likely want every ally to raise their tariffs on China to be very very high, to avoid any more transshipping from China.
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magicreadu · 8 months ago
It’s a full decoupling of number 1 and number 2 economies in the world - of course it’s messy. If you can’t stomach the turbulence, stay in safe instruments
magicreadu commented on Trump temporarily drops tariffs to 10% for most countries   cnbc.com/2025/04/09/trump... · Posted by u/bhouston
matt-p · 8 months ago
Also china has 125% tarriff but the reason that they couldn't originally give 10% to Vietnam was trans-shipment of Chinese goods.

If it wasn't happening before, it certainly will be now.

What's actually wrong with them.

magicreadu · 8 months ago
The reason they have reduced all tariffs back down to 10% even for the countries that were obviously transshipping (Vietnam, Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia) is that they need time to negotiate with those countries, to make sure these countries now put similarly high tariffs (100%+) on China, so that transshipping is reduced to nothing

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