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kid64 commented on I Am Mark Zuckerberg   iammarkzuckerberg.com/... · Posted by u/jb1991
wat10000 · a month ago
There's no sense in quibbling over a vague and imprecise summary of the concept. Legally, fraud requires an injured party. In our scenario here, nobody was injured, so no fraud. Whether temporarily possessing a document to hand it to its intended recipient counts as "obtaining" is not really the pertinent question.

I suspect it may fall afoul of a law about making false statements to the government, but that's distinct from fraud.

kid64 · 25 days ago
That's obviously nonsense. Lying on a loan application is fraud, even if you don't get the loan. You're confusing criminal liability with civil liability, which does require damages.
kid64 commented on After my dad died, we found the love letters   jenn.site/after-my-dad-di... · Posted by u/eatitraw
dartharva · 25 days ago
Interesting anecdote, but for the life of me I can't understand what relevance this blogpost could have here on HackerNews
kid64 · 25 days ago
Because she mentions Obsidian. Though I don't hold that against her.
kid64 commented on I Am Mark Zuckerberg   iammarkzuckerberg.com/... · Posted by u/jb1991
wat10000 · a month ago
They retrieved those documents and gave them to the intended recipient. “Obtain” suggests something longer term.
kid64 · a month ago
No, "obtain" suggests "obtain".
kid64 commented on I Am Mark Zuckerberg   iammarkzuckerberg.com/... · Posted by u/jb1991
kid64 · a month ago
Impersonation is inherently dishonest
kid64 commented on I Am Mark Zuckerberg   iammarkzuckerberg.com/... · Posted by u/jb1991
multjoy · a month ago
The key term in most statutes is dishonesty.

Impersonating someone at their behest as a favour is unlikely to be dishonest.

kid64 · a month ago
Impersonation is inherently dishonest
kid64 commented on I Am Mark Zuckerberg   iammarkzuckerberg.com/... · Posted by u/jb1991
wat10000 · a month ago
They didn't obtain anything, though.
kid64 · a month ago
I understood that they obtained legal documents
kid64 commented on Ask HN: How does AI understand what I write?    · Posted by u/deanebarker
kid64 · a month ago
It sounds like you get that LLMs are just "next word" predictors. So the piece you may be missing is simply that behind the scenes, your prompt gets "rephrased" in a way that makes generating the response a simple matter of predicting the next word repeatedly. So it's not necessary for the LLM to "understand" your prompt the way you're imagining, this is just an illusion caused by extremely good next-word prediction.
kid64 commented on I Am Mark Zuckerberg   iammarkzuckerberg.com/... · Posted by u/jb1991
dahart · a month ago
If it hypothetically was a crime, I wonder how often it would actually get prosecuted given someone used their real ID, showing the office failed to check anything other than a name known to have dupes, and/or given they had no intent to steal something and acted with knowledge and permission of the intended recipient, showing no malicious intent. I can imagine reasons those wouldn’t be considered a valid defense, but I guess it probably depends on what office & document & law we’re talking about.
kid64 · a month ago
Obtaining something of value through deception is fraud.
kid64 commented on Myna: Monospace typeface designed for symbol-heavy programming languages   github.com/sayyadirfanali... · Posted by u/birdculture
1718627440 · a month ago
As a counter example, I always decrease the font-size everywhere. The annoying trend of bloating everything with whitespace, means that less and less stuff fits on the screen. But even HN is on 80% right now.
kid64 · a month ago
Ah, to be young.
kid64 commented on App Store web has exposed all its source code   reddit.com/r/webdev/comme... · Posted by u/redbell
samdoesnothing · a month ago
It far and away beats the alternative which is clicking on a link and nothing happening. Feedback should be within a frame or two of latency, not seconds...
kid64 · a month ago
That's not the only alternative, there are a range of options between those extremes.

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