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jpster commented on OpenAI to Take a Percentage from Customer AI-Assisted R&D Outcomes   news.aibase.com/news/2485... · Posted by u/jpster
cbracketdash · 18 days ago
Are there credible sources for these claims?
jpster · 17 days ago
These type of stories are typically attributed to anonymous sources. So it’s impossible for a reader to conclude anything about the sources’ own credibility. So they usually rely on the credibility of the reporter or media org who’s published about it.

The Information is also reporting on this, but paywalled. IMO The Information does solid reporting.

https://www.theinformation.com/newsletters/applied-ai/openai...

Editing to add some of the Information’s reporting: > Speaking at a panel at Davos moderated by The Information CEO Jessica Lessin, Friar suggested that in the field of drug discovery, her company could, for instance, take a “license to the drug that is discovered” using OpenAI’s technology. In other words, OpenAI would take a profit-sharing stake in the financial upside its AI creates for customers.

> Friar is no doubt familiar with older AI drug discovery firms such as Recursion that struck deals with pharmaceutical firms to give them big bounties for successful drugs identified by their tech. There aren’t many, if any, examples of such successes yet, though.

> OpenAI isn’t the only firm eyeing this opportunity. Its rivals Anthropic, Google DeepMind and Isomorphic Labs, an Alphabet subsidiary focusing on using AI for drug discovery, have also held discussions with early-stage biotechnology startups about data licensing or partnerships.

jpster commented on 'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in speech at Davos   cbc.ca/news/politics/carn... · Posted by u/martythemaniak
s1artibartfast · 20 days ago
If I decide to stop buying bread from the baker in boycott, is that a commission? It is certainly a change of state, but the status quo does not entitle ongoing purchases. This is a sanction. I can also extend this boycott to anyone else who shops at the baker. That still is not a commission. It is a refusal to interact.

A blockade is different. It is a threat to use force for disobedience. IF I threaten to beat other who willingly shop at the baker.

jpster · 19 days ago
Disagree
jpster commented on 'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in speech at Davos   cbc.ca/news/politics/carn... · Posted by u/martythemaniak
s1artibartfast · 20 days ago
Blockade and sanctions are entirely different.

Sanctions are omission, blockade is comission. These words are currently being conflated.

jpster · 20 days ago
> International sanctions are restrictions on international transactions imposed by governments in pursuit of foreign policy objectives.

Imposing a restriction where one did not previously exist is quite obviously a commission.

jpster commented on 'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in speech at Davos   cbc.ca/news/politics/carn... · Posted by u/martythemaniak
jpster · 20 days ago
> "great powers" are using economic integration as "weapons."

This is so true and I think economic sanctions should be recognized as the weapons they actually are.

Just a taste: No Amazon, No Gmail: Trump Sanctions Upend the Lives of I.C.C. Judges President Trump’s retaliation against top officials at the International Criminal Court has shut them out of American services and made even routine daily tasks a challenge. https://archive.is/KflDP

Now consider the US has been doing this to entire countries for decades. Cuba, Venezuela, Iran. Forget Amazon, the inability to use the SWIFT banking system has all sorts of nasty consequences that get elided by a clinical sounding term.

From the Lancet:

Our findings showed a significant causal association between sanctions and increased mortality. We found the strongest effects for unilateral, economic, and US sanctions, whereas we found no statistical evidence of an effect for UN sanctions. Mortality effects ranged from 8·4 log points (95% CI 3·9–13·0) for children younger than 5 years to 2·4 log points (0·9–4·0) for individuals aged 60–80 years. We estimated that unilateral sanctions were associated with an annual toll of 564 258 deaths (95% CI 367 838–760 677), similar to the global mortality burden associated with armed conflict. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-1...

jpster · 20 days ago
US Treasury Secretary in Davos this week:

When asked, “Do sanctions actually work (on Iran)?”, Bessent replied:

If you look at a speech I gave at the economic club of New York last March, I said that I believe the Iranian currency was on the verge of collapse, that if I were an Iranain citizen, I would take my money out.

President Trump ordered treasury and our OFAC division, (Office of Foreign Asset Control) to put maximum pressure on Iran, and it’s worked because in December, their economy collapsed, we saw a major bank go under, the central bank has started to print money, there is a dollar shortage, they are not able to get imports and this is why the people took to the streets.

He added, “This is economic statecraft, no shots fired, and things are moving in a very positive way here.” https://the307.substack.com/p/at-the-wef-scott-bessent-says-...

jpster commented on 'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in speech at Davos   cbc.ca/news/politics/carn... · Posted by u/martythemaniak
s1artibartfast · 20 days ago
What are the economic death tolls of wars? It seems like those should be included.

Moreover, it's kind of consequentialist morality ignores the distinction of active harm versus failure to Aid.

This should play a role when one considers something an attack or weapon.

Is less than maximal charity an attack?

Is it an attack when someone refuses to sleep with someone else?

Norms around choice versus entitlement distinguish the two.

jpster · 20 days ago
If I blockade you in your house, is that failure to aid? Or something else? Sanctions occur via commission, not omission. They’re not a failure to render aid or to be maximally charitable. They’re active harm.
jpster commented on 'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in speech at Davos   cbc.ca/news/politics/carn... · Posted by u/martythemaniak
JumpCrisscross · 20 days ago
> the annual toll caused by unilateral sanctions (over 564k) is comparable to armed conflict?

In aggregate. America isn’t in armed conflict with those folks. If everyone we sanctioned were attacked, more people would die.

jpster · 20 days ago
I am saying that sanctions are weapon of sorts and have worse effects than people realize, and you seem to be saying their effects are not as bad as those of kinetic weapons. Despite Lancet concluding their tolls are comparable.
jpster commented on 'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in speech at Davos   cbc.ca/news/politics/carn... · Posted by u/martythemaniak
JumpCrisscross · 20 days ago
> economic sanctions should be recognized as the weapons they actually are

You don’t need a study to conclude the mortality of actual weapons.

Sanctions are bad. But war is horrible.

jpster · 20 days ago
Did you skip right over the Lancet sentence that concluded the annual toll caused by unilateral sanctions (over 564k) is comparable to armed conflict?
jpster commented on 'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in speech at Davos   cbc.ca/news/politics/carn... · Posted by u/martythemaniak
jpster · 20 days ago
> "great powers" are using economic integration as "weapons."

This is so true and I think economic sanctions should be recognized as the weapons they actually are.

Just a taste: No Amazon, No Gmail: Trump Sanctions Upend the Lives of I.C.C. Judges President Trump’s retaliation against top officials at the International Criminal Court has shut them out of American services and made even routine daily tasks a challenge. https://archive.is/KflDP

Now consider the US has been doing this to entire countries for decades. Cuba, Venezuela, Iran. Forget Amazon, the inability to use the SWIFT banking system has all sorts of nasty consequences that get elided by a clinical sounding term.

From the Lancet:

Our findings showed a significant causal association between sanctions and increased mortality. We found the strongest effects for unilateral, economic, and US sanctions, whereas we found no statistical evidence of an effect for UN sanctions. Mortality effects ranged from 8·4 log points (95% CI 3·9–13·0) for children younger than 5 years to 2·4 log points (0·9–4·0) for individuals aged 60–80 years. We estimated that unilateral sanctions were associated with an annual toll of 564 258 deaths (95% CI 367 838–760 677), similar to the global mortality burden associated with armed conflict. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-1...

u/jpster

KarmaCake day629February 25, 2017View Original