jpereira (u/jpereira)

jpereira commented on Communities are not fungible joanwestenberg.com/commun... · Posted by u/tardibear

jpereira · 2 days ago

When thinking about online communities I think the lack of "global" identities has dramatically hampered community migration and evolution. I fully agree with the author that you can't just pick up and move a community wholesale but irl we do see patterns of migration, disaporas, etc that bring along with them relationships and trust networks. That's been basically impossible to do online. The networks where most of us hang out are even straightforwardly antagonistic towards people leaving and maintaining their identities and relationships in anyway.

I don't quite know how to articulate it but I really feel the social fabric of the internet has been limited hugely by this, and it's hard to seperate what is fundamental about community migration with what's an outcome of this limited circumstance.

jpereira · 2 days ago

I guess I got my language wrong here. Maybe what I'm talking about is about portability more than global vs local. Identities should exist at a layer higher than any given social context, and should be "materialized" into that context with local information. It's not about using the same identity everywhere, it's about being able to take the identity where you want to. Similarly it's not about the same information being available everywhere, but information being relative to durable identities, not ephemeral ones.

jpereira commented on Communities are not fungible joanwestenberg.com/commun... · Posted by u/tardibear

jpereira · 2 days ago

When thinking about online communities I think the lack of "global" identities has dramatically hampered community migration and evolution. I fully agree with the author that you can't just pick up and move a community wholesale but irl we do see patterns of migration, disaporas, etc that bring along with them relationships and trust networks. That's been basically impossible to do online. The networks where most of us hang out are even straightforwardly antagonistic towards people leaving and maintaining their identities and relationships in anyway.

I don't quite know how to articulate it but I really feel the social fabric of the internet has been limited hugely by this, and it's hard to seperate what is fundamental about community migration with what's an outcome of this limited circumstance.

jpereira commented on Unison 1.0 unison-lang.org/unison-1-... · Posted by u/pchiusano

pchiusano · 3 months ago

Also, hi, I'm one of the language creators, feel free to ask any questions here!

jpereira · 3 months ago

I'm curious about how the persistence primitives (OrderedTable, Table, etc) are implemented under the hood. Is it calling out to some other database service? Is it implemented in Unison itself? Seems like a really interesting composable set of primitives, together with the Database abstraction, but having a bit of a hard time wrapping my head around it!

jpereira commented on Tangled, a Git collaboration platform built on atproto blog.tangled.org/intro... · Posted by u/mjbellantoni

idiotsecant · 4 months ago

This is interesting, what does it give that hosted git doesn't?

jpereira · 4 months ago

The fact that all the data is open means not only that you could plausibly exit to other providers and keep all your projects data, (issues, prs, etc), but also that it's dramatically easier to build other tools that work on that same data. Triage, labelers, bots, etc, I know these are all possible on GitHub today with their API, but I think the programming model of ATProto removes a lot of friction in building and composing them.

jpereira commented on Open Social overreacted.io/open-socia... · Posted by u/knowtheory

jrm4 · 5 months ago

This is such an important idea -- and yet I feel like the hyper-individualized "bluesky" implementation pictured is a less good practical idea than Mastodons more "server/host" way of doing things.

I get that theoretically the two should be similar or even identical in practice, but I feel like the way Bluesky goes so hard at "literally individuals maintain control over their own stuff" is kinda too hard for most, and that Mastodon's "just trust the server" way, which ABSOLUTELY has it's own problems, of course -- is still better, mostly because we have better practice in this style, in the form of good ol email.

jpereira · 5 months ago

In my view the atproto approach asks the users to make fewer required complex decisions, but gives them the freedom to make many voluntary ones. If someone wants to use a particular application, they basically just need to sign in. If they don't have an existing ATProto account, they can just make one, in the flow of the application they're signing into. Later they can chose different clients, or different infrastructure, or move their account, to their own hosting even if they want.

Mastodon requires a complex decision upfront, which server do I trust, which is analogous to where you create your account on ATProto, but unlike ATProto, doesn't give the tools to seamlessly transition later.

The trust lens I think is a good one. You want to let different users make different tradeoffs in effort without having that leading to a worse experience..

jpereira commented on Slow social media herman.bearblog.dev/slow-... · Posted by u/rishikeshs

jpereira · 5 months ago

I wrote a lil blog post after reading this this morning: https://awarm.leaflet.pub/3lyzchme2d22b

tl;dr: people have a huge diversity of preferences for social media, we need to rearchitect social networks to allow them to express those preferences while still connecting with each other, I think atproto enables this and is where I'm betting on.

jpereira commented on Next.js is infuriating blog.meca.sh/3lxoty3shjc2... · Posted by u/Bogdanp

cpcallen · 5 months ago

You know what else is infuriating? Pages that won't load (at all—just show a blank page, or in this case a too many redirects error—if you do not have cookies and local storage enabled.

jpereira · 5 months ago

Agh, sorry about this! I'm one of the people building leaflet.pub, which this blog is running on. Just pushed a fix for this (ironically on nextjs/vercel). The redirect loop is to handle sharing auth between our "main" domain, and people's various custom subdomains. Auth, via the ATProtocol, is used for things like subscribing and commenting!

jpereira commented on Substack just killed the creator economy mail.bigdeskenergy.com/p/... · Posted by u/pulisse

jpereira · 5 months ago

disclosure: building a substack competitor on atproto

I'm really excited for ATProto as a way to build applications that let you have the benefits of substack (a unified network, recommendations, social features like comments, etc) without the eventual path to lock in.

It's particularly exciting because the incentive is actually there to build an application this way. Whether Bluesky is growing or not, there are currently 30M accounts that you can reach (with one of the best auth systems I've interacted with), AND atproto gives you the building blocks for others to build on your work. Both these things make the bootstrapping problem for any social application way down.

There's still a lot of stuff missing, payments being a big (and gnarly one), notification management being another, but both the bluesky team and the overall ecosystem has been moving at a solid pace, and things are getting more viable by the day.