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jf22 commented on Ask HN: How do you cope with the broken rythm of agentic coding? · Posted by u/pauletienney

jf22 · a day ago

I feel like I'm a stone skipping across the water instead of being submerged deep in coding context.

I'm getting used to it but I don't like it.

I'm also much more tired at the end of the day. My mind feels broken. I don't know if our brains were designed for this.

jf22 commented on Agentic Engineering Patterns simonwillison.net/guides/... · Posted by u/r4um

slaye · 10 days ago

Simon, if you're reading this, I'd be really curious to hear your thoughts on how to effectively conduct code reviews in a world where "code is cheap".

One of the biggest struggles I have on my team is coworkers straight up vibing parts of the code and not understanding or guiding the architecture of subsystems. Or at least, not writing code in a way that is meant to be understood by others.

Then when I go through the code and provide extensive feedback (mostly architectural and highlighting odd inconsistencies with the code additions) I'm met with much pushback because "it works, why change it"? Not to mention the sheer size of prs ballooning in recent months.

The end result is me being the bottleneck because I can't keep up with the "pace" of code being generated, and feeling a lot of discomfort and pressure to lower my standards.

I've thought about using a code review agent to review and act as me in proxy, but not being able to control the exact output worries me. And I don't like the lack of human touch it provides. Maybe someone has advice on a humane way to handle this problem.

jf22 · 10 days ago

How are the architecture changes you are proposing improving the end result?

>but not being able to control the exact output worries me

Why?

jf22 commented on When AI writes the software, who verifies it? leodemoura.github.io/blog... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti

xienze · 11 days ago

So are you learning a trade? Or do you somehow think you’ll be one of the developers “good enough” to remain employed?

jf22 · 11 days ago

I have a physical goods side hustle already and I'm brainstorming ideas about a trade I can do that will benefit from my programming experience.

I'm thinking HVAC or painting lines in parking lots. HVAC because I can program smart systems and parking lot lines because I can use google maps and algos to propose more efficient parking lot designs to existing business owners.

There is that paradox when if something becomes cheaper there is more demand so we'll see what happens.

Finally, I'm a mediocre dev that can only handle 2-3 agents at a time so I probably won't be good enough.

jf22 commented on Don't become an engineering manager newsletter.manager.dev/p/... · Posted by u/flail

coredev_ · 11 days ago

As an EM I don't get this. You are the sole responsible for quality. You are the sole responsible for what tools use. AI is voluntary to use. If AI produces code that no one knows and is hard to maintain, don't use AI in that way. If you can't make that decision, are you really the EM?

jf22 · 11 days ago

I don't understand he comment.

AI produces code that people can understand and is easy to maintain if you ask it for that.

jf22 commented on When AI writes the software, who verifies it? leodemoura.github.io/blog... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti

xienze · 11 days ago

> The problem is some developers now just submit code for review that they didn't bother to read.

Can you blame them? All the AI companies are saying “this does a better job than you ever could”, every discussion topic on AI includes at least one (totally organic, I’m sure) comment along the lines of “I’ve been developing software for over twenty years and these tools are going to replace me in six months. I’m learning how to be a plumber before I’m permanently unemployed.” So when Claude spits out something that seems to work with a short smoke test, how can you blame developers for thinking “damn the hype is real. LGTM”?

jf22 · 11 days ago

I'm an 99% organic person (I suppose I have tooth fillings) and the new models write code better than I do.

I've been using LLMS for 14+ months now and they've exceeded my expectations.

jf22 commented on Don't become an engineering manager newsletter.manager.dev/p/... · Posted by u/flail

jf22 · 11 days ago

I'm a former EM who would never go back in an AI age.

EMs deal with friction and from my experience more output is more friction.

You have org leaders and businessy people putting their foot on the gas because AI is so productive and then programmers shipping 2-3x more code.

These two forces collide and you're stuck dealing with the friction so 10x the amount of initiatives you did before.

The friction is like sandpaper on sandpaper.

jf22 commented on Ask HN: How are you all staying sane? · Posted by u/throwaway53463

ManlyBread · 12 days ago

Is it the same future where I sent crypto from my no-code app to buy a NFT to use in my Metaverse apartment that I interact with through VR?

jf22 · 11 days ago

This is a really bad take (and bad faith) because all the failed tech initiatives you mentioned barely had any adoption whereas LLM based AI tools are used by a billion people a week.

jf22 commented on Ask HN: Cognitive Offloading to AI · Posted by u/daringrain32781

jf22 · 18 days ago

I think the question is why didn't you ask the AI and then if you need more information ask the human including what you learned from AI.

jf22 commented on Ask HN: How far has "vibe coding" come? · Posted by u/pigon1002

verdverm · a month ago

At the same time, the LLM will, with some reliability, ignore the patterns or best practices in your code, or implement the same thing twice in different ways.

There are certain things they do, or don't do, that a human typically wouldn't, putting absolutes and anecdotes aside

jf22 · a month ago

Humans, with reliability, will ignore the patterns or best practices in your code and implement the same thing twice in different ways.

In 25 years I've never worked in a codebase where this wasn't true.

jf22 commented on Ask HN: How far has "vibe coding" come? · Posted by u/pigon1002

verdverm · a month ago

> You can tell LLMs to...

and they may or may not "listen", they are non-deterministic and have no formal means or requirements to adhere to anything you write. You know this because they violate your rules all the time in your own experience

jf22 · a month ago

Sure but in my experience LLMs behave much more consistently than humans with regards to quality. LLMs don't skip tests because they have to make a deadline for example.

And now we have LLMs that review LLM generated code so it's easy to verify quality standards.