Wow and it only needs a 7/8 super-duper majority to overturn.
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GYOFP - Get Your Own F'ing Platform. That's what so-called non-mainstream ideas have used for decades/centuries. Used to be pamphlets. Recently it was local weeklys. Now it's social media. That's what the First Amendment is all about. Amazing how this is getting twisted inside-out.
This is all just so much whining by folks whose ox happened to be gored. GYOFP for cripe's sake.
I’d rather these ride-or-die Joe Biden-heads splinter off onto their own network instead. They could make it so whenever you start to even type “Hunt-“ you get a modal that says “Did You Know: Actually Energy Expert Hunter Biden added way more than $50,000/mo worth of value to Burisma.”
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I think you’re wrong and exposing some weird form of entitlement to resources that don’t belong to you. Of course you can talk to people and organize. None of that grants you the right to use their systems, equipment, or resources to pursue those activities. Company email isn’t “talking” to people, you do that with your mouth. Company email is an IT system the company implements for whatever company business and communication they chose to allow. You are not entitled to use the company’s systems in any way they don’t allow, and they have every right to monitor communications on those systems.
? Not entitled nor even saying it’s a good idea. Unionizers all recommend doing it in secret anyway. I was more interested in talking about the legality
java_script commented on Netflix CEO explains why he pays technologists huge salaries insights.dice.com/2020/09... · Posted by u/pmodek
I prefer FAGMAN.
It’s unfortunate, but this is useful in that it’s easier to pronounce than any other alternative. I guess MANFAG is just as good and saves the spice for the end.
For sure, can you point me to the labor law stating that company issued equipment is primarily for the personal use of the employee? I couldn't find anything at the federal level.
My info was out of date but pre-Dec 2019 (Caesars Union Suit), electronic communication channels were treated like break rooms- if they aren’t already restricted to only work chat, and you could shoot the shit, then they can’t block or specifically spy (or appear to spy) on protected union activity. Post that ruling, I don’t really understand where the line is. Apparently if there is no other way to communicate outside of work with your co-workers, then they have to let you do it. Maybe you could argue that’s the case during coronavirus unless you can easily get everyone’s personal emails. Shrug
> presume to be able to use company equipment
I think this is the central point. You can do all those things, but are you entitled to use company equipment to do so?
The term spying becomes less clear-cut in that context too. It's spying if I get your personal private communication, but monitoring one's own internal network would not normally be considered spying.
Looks like I’m out of date as of December after Caesars https://www.google.com/amp/s/onezero.medium.com/amp/p/8d5d92...
The other prong of this that is still possibly illegal though is spying on union-specific activity, and leaving that information out for employees to find, which fits under the criteria of making employees believe they’ll be spied on for unionizing - even not on company IT systems.
There’s already an NLRA complaint against amazon (source: Matt Bruenig on Twitter) over the Union-spy job posting. It’ll be interesting to see where that goes and if this gets tacked on.
> Because company makes these resources available specifically for employee's personal use
Really? Is that an Amazon thing? Because my company's equipment is clearly not primarily intended for my personal use, as stated in a few company documents.
Company documents can say whatever they want, but labor law wins.
I'm confused as to why anyone would presume to be able to use company equipment, resources, email, etc for these types of activities. Obviously you have a right to organize, but I don't see how they have to let you use their systems to do so, and anything you send on company email they can and should be able to view. I've seen this sort of thing with the Google protests and whatnot too. The forums, message boards, and email accounts you are using belong to the company. Use external resources if you're going to do such things.
Wrong on all counts except when you said you’re allowed to organize: https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/em...
> This includes your right to distribute union literature, wear union buttons t-shirts, or other insignia (except in unusual "special circumstances"), solicit coworkers to sign union authorization cards, and discuss the union with coworkers. Supervisors and managers cannot spy on you (or make it appear that they are doing so), coercively question you, threaten you or bribe you regarding your union activity or the union activities of your co-workers. You can't be fired, disciplined, demoted, or penalized in any way for engaging in these activities.
java_script commented on Lyft and Uber suspending California rides at midnight theverge.com/2020/8/20/21... · Posted by u/smohnot
Since the old, crufty, established incumbents aren’t agile enough to meet the new requirements, seems like there’s a hole in the market for a disrupter.