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iwishiknewlisp commented on Amusing Ourselves to Death (2009)   web.archive.org/web/20100... · Posted by u/rzk
atiedebee · a year ago
A computer being better than everyone doesn't mean that chess isn't complicated. With that logic, games like CSGO would not be complicated because you could create a bot that headshots everyone at first sight.

Also, there being variance doesn't mean that there is randomness. There is no random element to the game of chess. All the variance comes from human decisions. It's an unsolved game, so there is no way to guarantee a win.

iwishiknewlisp · a year ago
> There is no random element to the game of chess.

No idea how you are defining random. What random elements exist for cricket? The same things you would define as random for a sport would be the same for chess.

The sad part is I am better at chess than you are. And have a deeper understanding of the game. Unless you are CM rated or above, highly doubt it.

iwishiknewlisp commented on Amusing Ourselves to Death (2009)   web.archive.org/web/20100... · Posted by u/rzk
atiedebee · a year ago
A computer being better than everyone doesn't mean that chess isn't complicated. With that logic, games like CSGO would not be complicated because you could create a bot that headshots everyone at first sight.

Also, there being variance doesn't mean that there is randomness. There is no random element to the game of chess. All the variance comes from human decisions. It's an unsolved game, so there is no way to guarantee a win.

iwishiknewlisp · a year ago
> A computer being better than everyone doesn't mean that chess isn't complicated

Less complicated than any sport that a computer can't be better at than humans.

By definition there are more moving variables in 99% of sports than chess. 5 on 5 basketball, at any time any player can be in an almost endless number of positions on the court in an almost endless number of contortions with different velocity and acceleration of multiple components of the body. The mental intelligence required to teach a robot how to walk and run is significantly harder of a problem than beating the best chess player in the world.

Chess isn't complicated. There is a finite number of moves a player can make at any one turn. And there is a finite number of unique possible games that can be played in chess, which means its solvable (not neccesaeily that it will be solved). You can notate an entire chess game on a napkin, you can't even fully quantify any sport with full length video footage. Comparing the vast complexity of physical movement to pieces on a board. Its a joke, you're a joke.

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