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incrediblydumb commented on Hacking Kia: Remotely controlling cars with just a license plate   samcurry.net/hacking-kia... · Posted by u/speckx
potato3732842 · a year ago
>Your number comes down to $100k per person per year. That’s just insane. Many families earn less than that (post-tax)!

That's not nearly as bad as I was expecting considering that for every 1-2 prisoners there's a ~$100k employee.

incrediblydumb · a year ago
do you just make shit up? you are seriously arguing that the "employee per prisoner" ratio is way way better than public schools.
incrediblydumb commented on Hacking Kia: Remotely controlling cars with just a license plate   samcurry.net/hacking-kia... · Posted by u/speckx
potato3732842 · a year ago
No they are not. At best they are a minor contributor. If people want security latches and whatnot they can buy them and pay accordingly. An easy to steal care beats no car every day of the week.

I live in a not great part of what's arguably the bluest state in the nation (which is to say this isn't some dumb red state "tough on crime" thing) and I can't imagine someone being able to go around checking windows or car doors for very long without a free ride in a cop car. Windows here are unlatched from May to September. I bet a lot of those houses have Kias in the driveway that they've had no theft problems with as we only have about a dozen car thefts per year here.

Ford Superduties over a huge year range can be stolen much the same way (you also have to punch out a lock before taking a screwdriver to the column) until very recently as PATS was not standard on the higher GVW stuff but those are expensive trucks so shitting on them doesn't scratch the same "validate my $50k purchase of something else" itch that crapping on Kia does.

incrediblydumb · a year ago
lol check out rochester ny car theft stats!
incrediblydumb commented on Hacking Kia: Remotely controlling cars with just a license plate   samcurry.net/hacking-kia... · Posted by u/speckx
tptacek · a year ago
This won't have nearly the same impact, but when you're considering how vulnerabilities like this might influence your future purchasing decisions, remember that Kia's decision to omit interlocks from their US vehicles (but not Canadian ones!) led to a nationwide epidemic of Kia thefts so large it fed a crime wave, something a number of US cities are suing Kia over. If you've read about carjacking waves in places like Milwaukee and Chicago: that was largely driven by a decision Kia made, which resulted in the nationwide deployment of a giant fleet of "burner" cars that could be stolen with nothing but a bent USB cable.
incrediblydumb · a year ago
Largely driven? You're forgetting at least one variable

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