Readit News logoReadit News
icedchai commented on Andrew Ng says bottleneck in AI startups isn't coding – it's product management   businessinsider.com/andre... · Posted by u/cl42
akdor1154 · 13 hours ago
I have but only once, would work again with him in a heartbeat. Absolute gold when you find a good one.

However your experience is not wrong: they're as rare as hens' teeth.

icedchai · 17 minutes ago
Same here. A PM that actually talked to the customer and the developers, could spec out features, design UI mockups... Incredibly rare.
icedchai commented on Andrew Ng says bottleneck in AI startups isn't coding – it's product management   businessinsider.com/andre... · Posted by u/cl42
dcreater · 21 hours ago
Product Management = Big picture product vision. Features and Priorities. Market trends/strategy, Voice of customer

Project Management = Day to day to execution, logistics, resources, schedules. Scheduling meetings, sending out meeting minutes etc

Program Management = Team management towards delivering business goals/product launches on schedule

Where its tricky is the differentiation between project and program management. IMO we dont really need both terms or both roles, causes uneccessary/unnatural separation of responsibilities

icedchai · 22 minutes ago
I often see product and project management combined. Usually it results in mediocre execution on all fronts. The last PM I worked with didn't even understand the product.
icedchai commented on Aspects of modern HTML/CSS you may not be familiar with   lyra.horse/blog/2025/08/y... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
bryanrasmussen · a day ago
I don't think flexbox really started being used until 2013 at the earliest, the comment I replied to was complaining about 2022 and a flexbox bug in IE. This 2012 thing doesn't seem to relate at all to the subject.

on edit: I know it was in WD in 2009 but I'm pretty sure it was around 2013 that people started playing with it. I think it started being popular in 2014-2015.

icedchai · 18 hours ago
My comment was more about the prevalence of IE in general, not flexbox specific. There were tons of IE quirks that had to be dealt with.
icedchai commented on Aspects of modern HTML/CSS you may not be familiar with   lyra.horse/blog/2025/08/y... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
archerx · 2 days ago
Yea and people over exaggerated about it just like people over exaggerate things today like how hard CSS. The technology progress but people’s refusal to learn and desire to whine on the internet has stayed the same.
icedchai · 2 days ago
This is true, but the dominance of IE and its quirks, especially during the early 2000's, should not be underestimated. The browser situation, especially on Linux, was absolutely abysmal then.
icedchai commented on Aspects of modern HTML/CSS you may not be familiar with   lyra.horse/blog/2025/08/y... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
bryanrasmussen · 2 days ago
>Nested flexbox had bugs in IE11, which wasn't end of lifed until 2022.

how is I hate CSS because IE was poorly maintained a serious argument?

icedchai · 2 days ago
For a long time, from the late 90's until roughly 2012, IE was the most popular browser. You had no choice but to work with it. If it didn't "work on IE", it didn't work.
icedchai commented on From Airbnb to America's 'Chief Design Officer'   nytimes.com/2025/08/27/st... · Posted by u/andsoitis
techpineapple · 3 days ago
I mean, all things considered is government web design that bad? I’m sure there are explicit exceptions, but I like say the national parks website, I surely wouldn’t like to see it turned into some bland minimalist Airbnb style design.

It seems the problem is just attention and not strictly speaking thought leadership.

icedchai · 3 days ago
IMO, the design matters much less than the functionality. This stuff needs to work. It needs to be accessible.

I once signed up for a state government health care exchange and basic functionality like resetting your password didn't even work. Once I was actually logged in (after waiting on hold with their call center), the site barely functioned: slow page loads. timeouts, absurd error messages. This was a double digit million dollar project, sometime around 2016. So called "professional services" were provided by several major tech firms, which I'm sure outsourced it to the cheapest offshore subcontractors they could find.

icedchai commented on Aspects of modern HTML/CSS you may not be familiar with   lyra.horse/blog/2025/08/y... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
mannyv · 3 days ago
Ugh, the syntax for CSS is just so crappy.

I know like 10-15 different languages, and CSS is by far the hardest to read and understand. It's easier to understand x86 assembly than CSS. CSS is basically pre-tokenized input that drives a renderer, but they sort of went halfway and didn't really make it real tokens or really human-writable.

I'd say that it should take the place of ASN.1 in the RFCs as an example of "what not to do."

icedchai · 3 days ago
I feel the same way. I find it the worst part of the HTML / CSS / JS trio.
icedchai commented on Google has eliminated 35% of managers overseeing small teams in past year   cnbc.com/2025/08/27/googl... · Posted by u/frays
lovich · 3 days ago
>The article is mostly about first level managers

Maybe for faangs. At every company I have worked at with a manger title from 2019 to present, this was expected of people with "director" in their title and below.

You are not a manager if you do not get to decide where capital is deployed, without your boss's approval.

For anyone reading this comment, if you think you are a manager, ask yourself this question

"If I decided tomorrow that the company would be better off if I hired someone to do role {X}, can I open a new req for that role without permission?"

If the answer is no, you are a supervisor with less agency than the a Walmart deli leader circa 2010

icedchai · 3 days ago
I've worked at places where the "senior executives" couldn't do any of these things without CEO approval. Even if they claimed to "have budget" for something, it still needed sign off.

There's tons of title inflation out there, especially at smaller firms.

icedchai commented on Ask HN: Why hasn't x86 caught up with Apple M series?    · Posted by u/stephenheron
ch_sm · 4 days ago
Yeah I had that same i9 16 inch from 2019. Easily the worst Mac I‘ve ever owned (in 20 years!). Now I‘m on an M2 16 inch an it is night and day.
icedchai · 4 days ago
Heh. I had one of those MacBook Pro i9's as a work machine. It was absolutely awful. I remember running an npm / node build and the thing would sound like an airplane was taking off.
icedchai commented on Google has eliminated 35% of managers overseeing small teams in past year   cnbc.com/2025/08/27/googl... · Posted by u/frays
hankchinaski · 4 days ago
can someone with experience doing this shine some light? i have been offered this type of role from engineer to 50/50 (as i feel it) or 80/20 (as they say) IC and managing. in a series C startup. i feel like it’s never good to context switch. i never seen a tech lead or manager who did well both roles at once. am i crazy to think that the tech lead or manager role should be 100%? either go the IC track or the manager track. but i lack evidence to substantiate this idea of mine.
icedchai · 4 days ago
At early startups where people are focused on building and you have self motivated, mostly senior+ engineers or hands-on founder types, the 80/20 thing can work. The problems happen when you bring in a lot of other roles, less experienced folks, and more and more distractions build up. The 80% will become more like 30%.

u/icedchai

KarmaCake day9202January 11, 2013View Original