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gregorygev commented on Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software    · Posted by u/gregorygev
conductr · 5 months ago
This is the correct takeaway from my comment. While kind of you, I wasn't fishing for a longer trial offer or even in the market for this solution. I was pointing out how a short trial preemptively narrows your top of funnel in terms of signup conversion. If you believe in your software/company, you should be prioritizing signups because you believe you will be able to convert them eventually.

If you give the user time to get through all of the integrations/setup steps, you should be even more confident in your ability to convert them as they're invested at that point.

If you're worried about the 'load' of a user on your SaaS, then you have bigger issues to solve because the unit economics of having a low usage/free tier user should be essentially free. If a user does require a lot of human touch/support during their trial, then I feel like you handle that manually on a case by case basis. It's likely going to be rare and you can decide how to handle (eg. talk to them about paying for support / moving to a paid plan / etc). I tend to believe you're missing out on the learning and feedback loop from these types of users even if you perceive them as unprofitable or what have you.

gregorygev · 5 months ago
We extended the trial period to 30 days now.

The original intent behind 14 days was to force a deadline onto user to get set-up properly and realize value of the product. (Seeing their financials in real-time)

Though the comment above justifiably mentioned that some folks might want an entire accounting period to run books in parallel while evaluating. We'll keep looking into this.

gregorygev commented on Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software    · Posted by u/gregorygev
samtuke · 5 months ago
This concept sounds great. I despise Xero, and felt the same about QuickBooks before it. "Linear for accounting" basically already has me sold. Just please make it work for UK companies some time (from a YC22 Founder).
gregorygev · 5 months ago
Currently the goal is to make the product awesome for our initial markets (US/Canada) but UK will be supported soon after we believe
gregorygev commented on Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software    · Posted by u/gregorygev
shrisukhani · 5 months ago
This looks really neat. Curious if you can say anything on how it's different from puzzle.io?
gregorygev · 5 months ago
Hey - puzzle looks interesting. I’d say we focus a lot on simplicity and flexible reporting, we have a built-in real-time spreadsheet so you’re able to put the kind of report that matters to you as a founder rather than the one one we force you to look at.
gregorygev commented on Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software    · Posted by u/gregorygev
mndgs · 5 months ago
Expensive
gregorygev · 5 months ago
what do you think would be a fair price for the product?
gregorygev commented on Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software    · Posted by u/gregorygev
seddona · 5 months ago
This would be super interesting as an open-core company. In particular, we would want direct access to the underlying SQL database and the ability to customize the code directly.
gregorygev · 5 months ago
hey - we'll think about this. In the meanwhile it is still powered by the same high-performance customizable ledger from our earlier ledger api pivots - it is 100% accessible via API.
gregorygev commented on Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software    · Posted by u/gregorygev
zvorygin · 5 months ago
Have you ever thought of adding a feature like automatically analyzing invoices to show owners “This supplier raised the price of 2x4 Joists by 22%” and other such insights?
gregorygev · 5 months ago
yes, we have something in the pipeline that would address that :) feel free to email me at gregory at modernbanc dot com if you want to have a deeper convo on that.
gregorygev commented on Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software    · Posted by u/gregorygev
tompccs · 5 months ago
Congratulations on launching!

I have some experience with accounting software and its use in various types of business (not just startups).

Xero (rather than Quickbooks) is dominant in the UK and it has a lot of problems. However, I think you are addressing a fundamentally different market. Quickbooks and Xero are both targeted at the long-tail of small businesses - think tradesmen, cafes, hairdressers, etc. The main thing they accomplish for those customers is basic book keeping and business functions (like invoicing, payroll, etc)

Your software seems much more aimed at small companies which want sophisticated tools to generate financial insight. This is not a criticism, just a comment that this is a different and potentially smaller market.

However, one way you could capture the "long tail" of small businesses is by winning over the high-street accountant. If you could let them prepare annual accounts with 10x less work - even if the customer book keeping is a mess - then every accountant will recommend your software to their clients.

Anyway - great to see something new in this space. Feel free to reach out if you'd like to discuss further.

gregorygev · 5 months ago
thanks - we are indeed working with high-street accountants. I also think there is a driver as you said from founders and smaller business owners who want financial insights. Those same businesses have budgets for reporting/budgeting and planning software, so having it as close to accounting data as possible in one product we can increase the value prop.
gregorygev commented on Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software    · Posted by u/gregorygev
amit9gupta · 5 months ago
When do you plan to support multi-currency?
gregorygev · 5 months ago
this has been requested a lot and is on our short term roadmap. Can you expand on your use-case and how important is this feature to you?
gregorygev commented on Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software    · Posted by u/gregorygev
p2hari · 5 months ago
Congrats on the launch. As a startup in Europe would love to see this expanding. There are nice open banking api's.
gregorygev · 5 months ago
Thanks :) Europe is definitely on the roadmap.
gregorygev commented on Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software    · Posted by u/gregorygev
jlaporte · 5 months ago
Counterpoint: the product vision that is already on display here is going in a great direction, and colocating a spreadsheet with your accounting app is a great idea. I love the idea of being freed from having to use excel for particular aspects of my accounting flow. You've got the export. People that want to keep their painful workflows can be masochistically happy.

This is clearly not an attempt to replace Excel, it's an attempt to accomplish a set of use cases in a better way than clunky export-import flows.

The in-app sheets look great, keep going!

gregorygev · 5 months ago
Thanks for your kind words.

> This is clearly not an attempt to replace Excel, it's an attempt to accomplish a set of use cases in a better way than clunky export-import flows

This is exactly how we think about this too.

u/gregorygev

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