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gisely commented on New funding to build towards AGI   openai.com/index/march-fu... · Posted by u/pelcg
windowshopping · 5 months ago
Just wondering how many others in this thread perceive this quest for "AGI" as delusional at the current time, when we don't yet understand the basis of natural general intelligence in almost any way at all? It's good to shoot for the stars, but it feels like if NASA were asking for funding for a manned mission to Andromeda before even landing a man on Mars. The belief that LLMs are the ticket feels absolutely quixotic to me.
gisely · 5 months ago
I’m with you on that.
gisely commented on New funding to build towards AGI   openai.com/index/march-fu... · Posted by u/pelcg
thundergolfer · 5 months ago
> deliver increasingly powerful tools for the 500 million people who use ChatGPT every week.

Wasn't aware they'd hit a WAU count this high. Impressive, but then again at this kind of valuation you sure want to be heading towards 9-figure MAU numbers.

gisely · 5 months ago
Do investors still not care about revenue and profits at a $300 billion valuation? Seems like the bigger problem for them is that they are losing money on the vast majority of those WAUs with no obvious route to profitability because most them will simply stop using it if forced to pay for it.
gisely commented on Arc browser built-in AI features [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=y7koA... · Posted by u/sheepscreek
yborg · 2 years ago
>Firefox is actively declining with 6% desktop

It's been dying for at least a decade, and I'll put up my entire NFT stash and bet you it will be here long after Arc has been forgotten.

Remember RockMelt? Yeah, nobody else does, either.

gisely · 2 years ago
I bet my entire Beanie Baby stash that your NFT stash won't be worth anything by the time you're ready to judge this bet.
gisely commented on Arc browser built-in AI features [video]   youtube.com/watch?v=y7koA... · Posted by u/sheepscreek
aylmao · 2 years ago
Wow, I would've thought these were run on a local model. This sounds like it could get expensive for them quickly, and if I understand correctly these features are available for free? I guess it's only a matter of time until they start charging for them.

EDIT: Per a comment in another thread, these features are only free for 90 days it seems.

gisely · 2 years ago
The enshitification cycle is moving fast these days.
gisely commented on We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT   openai.com/blog/chatgpt-c... · Posted by u/ladino
usaar333 · 2 years ago
That bike example seemed a mix of underwhelming (for being the demo video) and even confusing.

1. It's not smart enough to recognize from the initial image this is a bolt style seat lock (which a human can).

2. The manual is not shown to the viewer, so I can't infer how the model knows this is a 4mm bolt (or if it is just guessing given that's the most likely one).

3. I don't understand how it can know the toolbox is using metric allen wrenches.

Additionally is this just the same vision model that exists in bing chat?

gisely · 2 years ago
Yep. This example basically convinced me that they were unable to figure out anything actually useful to do with the model's new capabilities. Which makes me wonder how capable the new model in fact is.
gisely commented on Video-Game Company Unity Closes Offices Following Death Threat   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/jmsflknr
vasco · 2 years ago
Stop giving guys like Gurner what they want, which is for people like you to provide free marketing for him based on intentionally inflammatory comments.

It's incredible how people think this is "a rich guy revealing their true colors" as if they don't know what they are doing, which is manipulating you into linking more to him.

gisely · 2 years ago
What exactly does he get from people linking to a video of him being crude. He's real estate CEO not a social media influencer. He might get a thrill out of being a public asshole, but it's not like he somehow profiting off his infamy.
gisely commented on The Battle over Books3   wired.com/story/battle-ov... · Posted by u/pseudolus
Michelangelo11 · 2 years ago
So his contribution consisted of putting Bibliotik into plaintext format? Or is there more to it?
gisely · 2 years ago
How dare you profane the contributions of a literal god of AI!
gisely commented on How can AI help with climate change? A conversation with MIT's Priya Donti   transcripts.volts.wtf/how... · Posted by u/BasilPH
dmm · 2 years ago
> reduce economic activity.

Even if we stopped all carbon emissions today the earth would continue to warm for centuries. Mitigating these effects is going to take carbon capture(aka unburning oil) and geoengineering on an immense scale which won't be possible without economic growth. There's no going back.

gisely · 2 years ago
Not according to climate scientists. As explained here, mostly believe the warming stop shortly after emissions do:

https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-will-global-warming-st...

More importantly, the sooner we can stop carbon emissions the less severe warming and ecosystem harm we'll experience. Carbon capture may help a bit if we are able to massively scale it up, but there really is not substitute for ending emissions.

gisely commented on Stochastic Parrot   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sto... · Posted by u/miobrien
Workaccount2 · 2 years ago
I worry that the "stochastic parrot" was premature, an idea sown early in development that will now carry along through any advances made.

Basically there is this innate idea that if the basic building blocks are simple systems with deterministic behavior, then the greater system can never be more than that. I've seen this is spades within the AI community, "It's just matrix multiplication! It's not capable of thinking or feeling!"

Which to me always felt more like a hopeful statement rather than a factual one. These guys have no idea what consciousness is (nobody does) nor have any reference point for what exactly is "thinking" or "feeling". They can't prove I'm not a stochastic parrot anymore than they can prove whatever cutting edge LLM isn't.

So while yes, present LLMs likely are just stochastic parrots, the same technology scaled might bring us a model that actually is "something that is something to be like", and we'll have everyone treating it with reckless carelessness because "its just a stochastic parrot".

gisely · 2 years ago
It's weird seeing comments like this that argue simultaneously: 1) LLMs aren't stochastic parrots anymore! 2) You can't prove humans aren't stochastic parrots!

It pretty clear the whole point is minimize the difference between us and AI, but it does feel like you are undermining you argument by trying to work it from both sides. It reminds me some accused of crime who say both "I didn't do it!" and "If did it, it wasn't wrong!".

Humans aren't stochastic parrots. You can't "prove" this because it's not mathematical fact, but there is plenty evidence from study how to brain works to show this. Hell, it's even readily apparent from introspection if you'd bother to check. LLMs on the hand basically are stochastic parrots because they just autoregressive token predictors. They might become less so due to architectural changes made by the companies working on them, but it isn't going to just creep up on us like some goddamn emergence boogeyman.

gisely commented on Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer   apple.com/newsroom/2023/0... · Posted by u/samwillis
ztrww · 2 years ago
The difference being is that Valve is competing a (mostly) open market. Clearly they are offering enough value to earn their 30%?
gisely · 2 years ago
Not really an open market when one company has as large a share of sales as steam. Valve may have a different ethos from Apple, but both agree on principle of extracting monopoly rents.

u/gisely

KarmaCake day122March 5, 2014View Original