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friedturkey commented on The Art of Monetary War   nplusonemag.com/online-on... · Posted by u/kawera
ailef · 4 years ago
I can't help but notice that instead of condemning Azov crimes and recognizing that they too are a terrorizing force in the region, you conveniently blamed their existence on Russia. The hypocrisy here is blaring. We are now at the point of tolerating, hiding and in some extreme cases even justify the crimes committed by these people. All the while forgetting the fact that the US has provided them with military training, money and weapons.

In fact, if the US can interfere in a country that's thousands miles away by funding extremist military groups, I find it way more legitimate for Russia to fund Russian separatists in the Donbas region, which has historically had strong ties with Russia and whose population would rather stay there than join the "Western" side. It's also interesting how everybody always talks about self-determination, but only in the case where people want to "self-determine" themselves in the right direction. I would be interested in knowing why it doesn't apply in this case.

To conclude: the Ukrainian army along with this these neo-Nazi groups (that have been effectively integrated into the army) has destroyed several hospitals, schools and other civilian infrastructure and killed more than 3000 civilians since 2014 in the Donbas. Ignoring this situation and blaming everything on Russia is one of the reason that we are in this situation right now, and surely one very myopic way of assessing what's going on.

friedturkey · 4 years ago
It's the same as acknowledging that the Taliban wouldn't exist without American and Russian interference in the region.

Azov and the Taliban are bad, yeah. But they appeared because of foreign threats. None of this would happen if Russia didn't repeatedly murder people in neighboring countries then backpedal and retroactively justify their invasion by saying radical defense forces are defending themselves from Russia.

Don't want your country to be attacked by extremists? Don't invade and push people to radical groups. Your paycheck signer deserves the blame for Azov 100%.

friedturkey commented on The Art of Monetary War   nplusonemag.com/online-on... · Posted by u/kawera
ailef · 4 years ago
> Do you think Russia's funding of terrorist groups in the eastern portions of Ukraine known for atrocities against civilians could've influenced that decision?

You are maybe confused with neo-Nazi Azov battalion and co. also funded and trained by the USA, which have committed documented war crimes against civilians.

friedturkey · 4 years ago
The very first paragraph of Wikipedia even says Azov formed as a consequence of something.

That reason? To push Russian forces out of their country.

If Russia weren't terrorizing the region, Azov would not exist. Russia pays to astroturf the claim that Azov is some thing that appeared out of nowhere when it's a group that formed directly to keep Russia and its violent militias out.

friedturkey commented on The Art of Monetary War   nplusonemag.com/online-on... · Posted by u/kawera
mercy_dude · 4 years ago
A big part of the general population of Ukraine never wanted to do anything with NATO, even at the peak of the crisis western backed poll found the support for NATO only around 54%. Your count of history of Ukraine being raped and ravaged by Russia is generally not supported by large part of Ukrainian population, as supported even the western polls.

> Do you think Russia's funding of terrorist groups in the eastern portions of Ukraine known for atrocities against civilians could've influenced that decision?

What? Eastern Ukraine including Donbass and Crimea has a large majority of Russian speakers with ties with Russia. Ukrainian parliament decided to deny minority languages meant to provoke Russia http://www.iconnectblog.com/2021/04/minority-rights-ukraines...

friedturkey · 4 years ago
America has a large portion of English speakers. It historically had a large portion of people with direct ties to the UK. Haiti had plenty of people with ties to France and still has French speakers. Taiwan has Chinese speakers and people with family in China.

There's a clear pattern here. But Russia pays people to pretend that Russian speakers means it's their land to stabilize. When in reality, it's a completely irrelevant statement.

friedturkey commented on The Art of Monetary War   nplusonemag.com/online-on... · Posted by u/kawera
dragonwriter · 4 years ago
> I don't think Ukraine was even being seriously considered for NATO until Russia decided to surround the country with its military recently.

NATO, in a statement from the NATO Summit, explicitly indicated last June (so, before the late 2021 encirclement) the intention that Ukraine would join the alliance through the Membership Action Plan.

This reiterated a 2008 policy statement that had effectively been shelved by the Yanukovych governments anti-NATO position, but never formally restated after a more NATO-friendly government had emerged in Ukraine and sought to advance towards membership.

friedturkey · 4 years ago
Do you think Russia's funding of terrorist groups in the eastern portions of Ukraine known for atrocities against civilians could've influenced that decision?

Or maybe going back farther Russia's sudden seizure of Crimea with a fraudulent vote with 97% in support could've been what made Ukraine nervous that they'd be invaded and seek support from other countries?

Or maybe going back a little farther to the USSR's atrocities against Ukraine, including Holodomor--the outright genocide of the Ukrainian people--might've been the thing that makes Ukraine want to ally with literally any country but Russia?

The idea that Ukraine should want to associate with Russia is the most bizarre political claim there ever was. Their history is nothing but being ravaged and literally raped by Russia, so them considering joining NATO is nothing but a big "no shit". Putin deserves to be surrounded for his actions. All he's done is shown that the Russia's intentions to destroy the Ukrainian people haven't changed in 100 years.

friedturkey commented on The Art of Monetary War   nplusonemag.com/online-on... · Posted by u/kawera
mercy_dude · 4 years ago
Even western polls show around 54% population support for Ukraine to join NATO [1]. Not by a huge majority. And I suspect the Eastern parts the number is substantially lower. When Ukraine is discussed, a lot of western media assumes east and west in same terms which is really not the case.

[1] https://www.iri.org/resources/iri-ukraine-poll-shows-support...

friedturkey · 4 years ago
I don't think Ukraine was even being seriously considered for NATO until Russia decided to surround the country with its military recently.

It's like punching someone, some guy passing by tells you to stop, then you justify your reason for punching that person because you were worried that the person who told you to stop was going to attack you.

Nobody was going to do anything to say anything to you if you hadn't gone out of your way to attack someone.

friedturkey commented on The Art of Monetary War   nplusonemag.com/online-on... · Posted by u/kawera
friedturkey · 4 years ago
"Expansion" makes it sound like something that happened to Eastern Europe against their will--not that those countries actively wanted to join.

Those countries actively bid to join NATO because they feared Russia expanding into Eastern Europe. Turns out their fears were justified.

friedturkey commented on You don't ever own an electric vehicle   reviewgeek.com/111381/you... · Posted by u/serverlessmom
babypuncher · 4 years ago
I always chuckle when people make these arguments about cars being better when they were easier to repair.

Sure, diagnosing and repairing a problems like the throttle control example is more difficult and expensive today than it was in the '70s. But cars are also so much more reliable today that the frequency of these repairs is considerably lower.

I have a 2009 Toyota Matrix that I have owned for 12 years now. It has nearly 140,000 miles on it. Last month, the vehicle finally had to get a repair of a non wear item (failing O2 sensor), which cost me $300. In 1975, how many cars could be expected to last 13 years and 140,000 miles before needing a single repair?

friedturkey · 4 years ago
I remember seeing broken down cars pretty often as a kid. Just driving 30 minutes to the grocery store on weekends and seeing (or being) one wasn’t that uncommon.

I noticed at one point that I stopped seeing broken down cars. Sure, I’ll see accidents sometimes, but I cannot remember the last time I saw someone pulled over with an overheated car, something smoking, or just not running for whatever reason.

friedturkey commented on Apple's Tim Cook raises concern over LGBTQ laws in the U.S.   reuters.com/world/us/appl... · Posted by u/ksec
JumpCrisscross · 4 years ago
> conflate kindergartners, with all school children

It appears the bill is concerned with K through 2 and has the caveat of age and developmental appropriateness.

I don’t think it bans a teacher reading a storybook with a gay couple doing dishes together. (EDIT: never mind, it bans “discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in primary grade levels or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate” [1].)

[1] https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/2022/1557/billtext/filed... 1001.42 § 8(c)(3)

friedturkey · 4 years ago
It doesn't explicitly. But in practice it would. If a kid asks "Why are there two daddies in the book?", a huge can of worms is opened. It'll be selectively applied by people with political motivations and administrators fearing (or facing) backlash and violent threats from parents.

Just recently a person was fired for reading a silly book about buttcracks to 2nd graders. [1] I have no hope that people who seek to be offended won't be offended and use it to further spread mob justice.

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/assistant-principal-fir...

friedturkey commented on The magic of the Japanese convenience store sandwich   japlanease.com/japanese-c... · Posted by u/graderjs
Tor3 · 4 years ago
7/11 is mostly a franchise setup in Japan, so things aren't completely uniform. The 7/11 combini I've been visiting over the years doesn't suffer from the empty bread syndrome. This isn't a big city, it's almost rural, don't know if that matters too. When that's said, the sandwiches they prepare in the bread shop in the nearby shopping mall is better, if anything there's too much filling. Anyway, it can never be truly good because it's all 100% white bread wherever you buy it.
friedturkey · 4 years ago
7/11 prepares their sandwiches in centralized factories. They’ll deep fry things in store, but anything chilled is shipped as-is from hours away.
friedturkey commented on The magic of the Japanese convenience store sandwich   japlanease.com/japanese-c... · Posted by u/graderjs
glandium · 4 years ago
Beware that more often than not, the sandwiches are not as filled as you'd expect. https://soranews24.com/2020/10/23/7-eleven-japans-paper-tige...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHgIA1m3wNo
friedturkey · 4 years ago
Yeah. I always grab them from behind so I can immediately tell whether or not they’re completely empty bread.

Most of the time they are.

There’s no magic. They’re just sandwiches that look pretty because they push everything to the very edge.

u/friedturkey

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