This is how infrastructure works, and supposed to work, besides the point that servers "die by themselves" which of course isn't true in reality. You decrease the bus factor if this is a problem for you.
> Discord servers don't just go away unless somebody actively makes them to
If all the sysadmins at Discord died and nobody else has the keys, exactly the same problem happens. Discord though surely have multiple backups of the keys and so on, something you too can do when you have your own infrastructure, so overall that argument feels almost dishonest, since you don't compare the two accurately.
> Anything open source will be worse at phishing and fraud / abuse prevention by definition
What? Completely orthogonal concerns, and if your main "fraud-prevention approaches" depend on security by obscurity, I'm not sure you should even attempt to be involved in those efforts, because that's not what the rest of the industry is going by a long mile.
> People want bots (for things like high-fidelity Youtube music streaming on voice channels), and those are mostly Discord-only.
Actually, the further I get in your comment, the more it seems like you don't actually understand what Zulip offers nor what the parent comment is about. Music streaming on voice channels? Completely outside the scope of Zulip...
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I think you have to understand the comment you're replying to a bit better, before attempting to lift Discord above Zulip. They're specifically talking about Zulip as an alternative "for managing the firehose of busy communities", not as a general replacement for every single Discord "server" out there. Yet you've responded to the comment as that's what they've been doing.
No, infrastructure doesn't have to work this way. This is a very old-school mentality.
Sign the content with a key that you control. Back up the content locally. And boom- your server is easily replaced. It only helps copy data around and performs certain conveniences.
I've been working on this full-time for a few years. If we succeed, we solve link rot (broken links) on the web.
OpenCode in particular has huge community support around it- possibly more than Claude Code.