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emkoemko commented on Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow   blog.google/technology/ai... · Posted by u/youssefarizk
IncreasePosts · 3 months ago
Do you feel the same way about all the human computers that computers put out of work?
emkoemko · 3 months ago
what exactly do you do that AI won't take it over? or are you one of those "AI artists"? you do know their end goal would be to replace you as the "prompter" with AI and have auto generated content for everyone?
emkoemko commented on Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow   blog.google/technology/ai... · Posted by u/youssefarizk
yieldcrv · 3 months ago
Not close to the way they wanted, and at too much sacrifice to the other things they were interested in or supported their family with
emkoemko · 3 months ago
so they where never interested in the first place... but now they can call them self's artists after prompting a AI to make a image....
emkoemko commented on Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow   blog.google/technology/ai... · Posted by u/youssefarizk
_DeadFred_ · 3 months ago
But you aren't being creative here. Just using the 'average' of tons of actually creative peoples work to create an 'average' computer predicted scene. The opposite of art. Warhol already did it and did it better.

If I see a painting, I see an interpretation that makes me think through someone else's interpretation.

If I see a photograph, I don't analyze as much, but I see a time and place. What is the photographer trying to get me to see?

If I see AI, I see a machine dithered averaging that is/means/represents/construes nothing but a computer predicted average. I might as well generate a UUID, I would get more novelty. No backstory, because items in the scene just happened to be averaged in. No style, just a machine dithered blend. It represents nothing no matter the prompt you use because the majority is still just machine averaged/dithered non-meaning. Not placed with intention, focused with real vision, no obvious exclusions with intention. Just exactly what software thinks is the most average for the scene it had described to it. The better AI gets, the more average it becomes, and the less people will care about 'perfectly average' images.

It won't even work for ads for long. Ads will become wild/novel/distinct/wacky/violations of AI rules/processes/techniques to escape and belittle AI. To mock AI. Technically perfect images will soon be considered worthless AI trash. If for no other reason than artists will only be rewarded for moving in directions AI can't going forward. The second Google/OpenAI reach their goal, the goal posts will move because no one wants procedural/perfectly average slop.

emkoemko · 3 months ago
artist have a style,you can see a work of art and know who made it, with these AI images its all random all over the place no direction, they can call them self's artists but i will never see them as that
emkoemko commented on Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow   blog.google/technology/ai... · Posted by u/youssefarizk
duped · 3 months ago
> Why can't people be happy that more individuals would be soon able to create freely in a more accessible way?

The gates are wide open for those that want to put in effort to learn. What AI is doing to creative professionals is putting them out of a job by people who are cheap and lazy.

Art is not inaccessible. It's never been cheaper and easier to make art than today even without AI.

> Personally I can't wait to see the new creative doors ai will open for us!

It's opening zero doors but closing many

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What really irks me about this is that I have _seen_ AI used to take away work from people. Last weekend I saw a show where the promotional material was AI generated. It's not like tickets were cheaper or the performers were paid more or anything was improved. The producers pocketed a couple hundred bucks by using AI instead of paying a graphic designer. Extrapolate that across the market for arts and wonder what it's going to do to creativity.

It's honestly disgusting to me that engineers who don't understand art are building tools at the whims of the financiers behind art who just want to make a bit more money. This is not a rising tide that lifts all ships.

emkoemko · 3 months ago
i think real art will just go underground kind of like how it was pre internet, and the internet will be filled with AI slop
emkoemko commented on Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow   blog.google/technology/ai... · Posted by u/youssefarizk
alickz · 3 months ago
>How is the requirement to use a computer and maybe pay a cloud subscription in the long term more accessible than other kinds of art?

Because many other kinds of art require thousands of hours to learn before getting to the level of current AI

The real gate keeper to art isn't the cost of a pencil, it's the opportunity cost of learning how to use it

Some people have creative ideas they cannot realise and tools like AI help them do it. The more people that can realise their creative ideas the better it is for everyone.

emkoemko · 3 months ago
so its for lazy people? who don't want to learn a skill? there are many ways to realize your creativity, and now you have to write your "prompt" for your creative result? then why not just write a story? like authors have been doing for ever ?
emkoemko commented on Branch Privilege Injection: Exploiting branch predictor race conditions   comsec.ethz.ch/research/m... · Posted by u/alberto-m
margorczynski · 4 months ago
I wonder if there's any way to recover for Intel. They don't have anything worthwhile on the market, R&D takes a lot of time and their foundries are a constant source of losses as they're inferior compared to the competition.

On top of that x86 seems to be pushed out more and more by ARM hardware and now increasingly RISC-V from China. But of course there's the US chip angle - will the US, especially after the problems during Covid, let a key manufacturer like Intel bite the dust?

emkoemko · 4 months ago
didn't i read something about apple,nvidia and other companies looking to use their foundries? why would they do that if its inferior or was that something else?
emkoemko commented on The Rise and Fall of Toys 'R' Us (2018)   history.com/articles/toys... · Posted by u/indigodaddy
toast0 · 4 months ago
Wikipedia says the Canadian company was owned by the US company until its bankruptcy, when the Canadian company was sold. Very likely, it had operated with separate finances from the US parent, and didn't have the same sort of loans and extraction activities. So when the US firm went bankrupt, there was interest from multiple bidders for the Canadian assets.
emkoemko · 4 months ago
oh that makes sense
emkoemko commented on The Rise and Fall of Toys 'R' Us (2018)   history.com/articles/toys... · Posted by u/indigodaddy
emkoemko · 4 months ago
we still have these stores in Canada, where they not the same business? https://www.toysrus.ca
emkoemko commented on We asked camera companies why their RAW formats are all different and confusing   theverge.com/tech/640119/... · Posted by u/Tomte
harrall · 5 months ago
Everything you said is supported by regular image formats. You can adjust white balance of any photo and you think image formats are only limited to 16-bit and sRGB?

That’s not why we use RAW. It’s partly because (1) if you used Adobe RGB or Rec. 709 on a JPEG, a lot of people would screw it up, (2) you get a little extra raw data from the pre-filtering of Bayer, X-Trans, etc. data, (3) it’s less development work for camera manufacturers, and (4) partly historical.

emkoemko · 5 months ago
what format can i a change the white balance of the image on other then RAW in software, for all the years i have used digital cameras i can't think of one...
emkoemko commented on We asked camera companies why their RAW formats are all different and confusing   theverge.com/tech/640119/... · Posted by u/Tomte
7bit · 5 months ago
First of all, it does not "just happen" to be selectable. RAW contains information that is not available in a JPG or PNG , but which is crucial to a lot of serious photographers.

Second, the native raw images do include a ton of adjustments in brightness, contrast and color correction. All of which gets lost when you open the image file with apps provided from other companies than the camera vendor. Eg. open a Nikon-raw in NC Software and then in Lightroom. Big difference. Adobe has some profiles that get near the original result, but the Nikon raw standards often are better.

So DNG would absolutely be an advantage because then at least these color corrections could natively be implemented and not get lost in the process.

emkoemko · 5 months ago
most people who shoot RAW don't care for the in camera picture adjustments so don't care if RAW shows up looking what it did in the camera because we apply our own edits anyways, if we need something like that we shot jpeg

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