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elfexec commented on Hundreds of workers defy Amazon rules to protest company's climate failures   theguardian.com/technolog... · Posted by u/perfunctory
llcoolv · 6 years ago
Alright, so many downvotes and not a single reasonable critique. I was just saying that those people would very easily find new employment, so saying that they're "risking their livelihood" is far-fetched to say the least.
elfexec · 6 years ago
> Alright, so many downvotes and not a single reasonable critique.

It's expected in a "brigadable" topic - anything to do with climate change, veganism, china, gender, etc. My original comment was downvoted within a second of being posted. So it couldn't have been a human reading and downvoting.

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elfexec commented on Trapped in Iran: My Summer as a Guest of the Revolutionary Guards   1843magazine.com/features... · Posted by u/b0b10101
dmix · 6 years ago
There was a spy TV show produced in Iran and pushed heavily on the state run TV networks there that they used to help justify detaining reporters, very clever propaganda:

https://apnews.com/c5348f244a6b484fa3678f39a12e3ceb

I remember seeing a clip of an Iranian leader saying every journalist is a spy and if they aren't they should be because they "don't get paid enough". Gives you insight into their thinking, or what happens when you give the hyper-paranoid intelligence agency people way too much power (which the west isn't immune too).

elfexec · 6 years ago
That's because it's true from time to time. Journalists, diplomats, NGOs, academics, etc are the top spy vectors.

Do you really think russia is killing "journalists" because they are journalists or because they are spies or worse? Do you think the Saudi's killed kashoggi because he was just a "journalist" or because he was something else? Every major news/media organization in the world ( west, east, south , north ) are tied to the state. Whether you talk about the NYTimes or BBC or Xinhua or RT or Al Jazeera or [fill in the blank], they are all state organizations.

Of course this doesn't mean all journalists are spies. Most are just mindless grunts working for a paycheck like everyone else. But the journalists who are sent to iran, china, russia, etc are more likely than not tied to the state in one way or another.

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elfexec commented on Hundreds of workers defy Amazon rules to protest company's climate failures   theguardian.com/technolog... · Posted by u/perfunctory
elfexec · 6 years ago
"More than 340 tech workers at Amazon used the hashtag #AMZNSpeakOut in public statements that condemn the company for not taking sufficient action on the climate crisis."

340 whole workers?

Total number of amazon employees : 750,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_(company)

So 749,660 employees did not protest? Shouldn't that be the real news?

elfexec commented on The Oldest Living Civilization (1944)   historians.org/about-aha-... · Posted by u/benbreen
amriksohata · 6 years ago
Reading about the GDP of India and China, both two were the richest countries in the world before Mughal and British invasions. There was a reason they called India the jewel in the crown, it was the biggest transfer of wealth from the east to the west
elfexec · 6 years ago
As awful as the theft of wealth was, the bigger crime was the prevention of industrialization. India was directly stopped by britain from industrializing because britain didn't want a competitor and rather wanted to use india for resources to power its industrialization. China directly somewhat, but mostly indirectly was prevented from industrialization by western powers ( and eventually japan ) who destabilized china and seized its major ports, industries, resources, etc.

If india and china were able to free itself and industrialize when japan did, india and china would easily have the two largest economies in the world today. It's disheartening thinking about all the wealth, knowledge, goods, discoveries etc the world missed out because of shortsighted greed and brutality.

elfexec commented on The Oldest Living Civilization (1944)   historians.org/about-aha-... · Posted by u/benbreen
bra4you · 6 years ago
"Until the Opium War of 1840–42 the European merchants and voyagers who reached the distant land of China had looked upon the Chinese with a good deal of awe as a people of superior culture."

Bullshit and Chinese Propaganda with their "5000 years old culture".

5000 years ago we are talking about bones inscribed with precursors of the Chinese writing system. Not bad, but compare this to the Pyramids at the same time?

Around the year 0 the Chinese culture was en par with the level of western culture and technology - speak Rome.

Only during the middle ages the west fell so far beyond and Chinese had indeed a superior level of technology, knowledge and administration. Things reversed again with the industrial revolution and the center of industrial GDP moved to the west again. Now since China and the rest of Asia has also industrialized and due to far more people in Asia, the center of world GDP has shifted back to the East.

If you can really talk about a "continuous civilization" for 5000, 3500 or even 2000 years is doubtful.

The experience from businessman with Chinese: 30 years ago they had an inferior complex because they were technological too far behind and a feeling of cultural superiority. Now the have the feeling of technological superiority combined with cultural superiority.

Chinese culture has a lot of strengths. But it also comes with a lot of weaknesses. I am skeptical about the "Chinese Century"

elfexec · 6 years ago
> Bullshit

It wasn't bullshit. Generally, the merchants and voyagers who reached china were in awe. It was why europeans wanted to get to china in the first place and not the other way around. Even decades after the opium wars, europeans were still in awe even while burning and pillaging.

"... I have done well. The [local] people are very civil, but I think the grandees hate us, as they must after what we did the Palace. You can scarcely imagine the beauty and magnificence of the places we burnt. It made one's heart sore to burn them; in fact, these places were so large, and we were so pressed for time, that we could not plunder them carefully. Quantities of gold ornaments were burnt, considered as brass. It was wretchedly demoralising work for an army. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Summer_Palace

Now that the roles are reversed, it's the chinese that are in awe of us. It's why they send so many students, merchants, etc to the US. For a few hundreds years, it was europeans who were as eager to go to china as chinese are now eager to get to the West.

> Chinese Propaganda with their "5000 years old culture".

Yeah, the continuous 5000 years is really a stretch. If they have 5000 years, then might as well say europe has 5000 years or more.

> If you can really talk about a "continuous civilization" for 5000, 3500 or even 2000 years is doubtful.

Even 1000 is doubtful as the mongols conquered china for a while there.

> I am skeptical about the "Chinese Century"

We are 2 decades in and nowhere close to a "Chinese Century". This century will most likely become a multipolar century.

u/elfexec

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