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derekjdanserl commented on Managed by Bots: surveillance of gig economy workers   privacyinternational.org/... · Posted by u/giuliomagnifico
retube · 4 years ago
So? Ever since the industrial revolution new technology has obsoleted jobs. 98% of us used to be farmers. Excel put gazillions of book-keepers out of work. But we're still at basically full employment: there's thousands of jobs now no one could have conceived of 50 years ago, or even 20 years ago. Self-driving cars (if indeed they actually materialise) will be hugely transformative for society, and create whole new businesses and industries, i.e. new jobs to replace the old. Progress fundamentally relies on this "creative destruction", without it we'd still be in caves scavenging for nuts and berries.

Edit: it's kind of bonkers that pointing out the basic mechanics of technological progress is getting downvoted on a site like HN, where I imagine most of us are gainfully employed trying to do just this.

derekjdanserl · 4 years ago
>So?

So much for humanity benefitting from technology. Instead of our workdays becoming fewer and shorter, a tiny number of people who don’t work at all will become richer while our lives become more alienated from our labor. This is the opposite of what we tell each other technology is supposed to accomplish. If it’s not a problem, why do we keep lying about?

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derekjdanserl commented on Amazon Facility Hit by Tornado   youtube.com/watch?v=TbkBe... · Posted by u/kordlessagain
Jerrrry · 4 years ago
Beside the tornado's direct hit?
derekjdanserl · 4 years ago
Tornado shelters are not exactly a novel idea.
derekjdanserl commented on Leaked Scripps records reveal automated mark-ups for hospital care   latimes.com/business/stor... · Posted by u/mmastrac
staircasebug · 4 years ago
US healthcare is most definitely not free market.
derekjdanserl · 4 years ago
As I said, a “free-market” solution isn’t even an option.
derekjdanserl commented on Leaked Scripps records reveal automated mark-ups for hospital care   latimes.com/business/stor... · Posted by u/mmastrac
tastyfreeze · 4 years ago
Your entire argument is based on the assumption that healthcare is a free-market which it is obviously not. The mechanisms of price discovery are not present to all players in the market. When there is an unbalance in information in any market it will always be detrimental to the player with less information. The way to fix the problem is to create a free-market.
derekjdanserl · 4 years ago
My entire argument is based on the fact that a free-market healthcare system is not even an option. Frankly, a free-market economy of any sort is a utopian fantasy. Healthcare is just a useful case study of the problems.
derekjdanserl commented on Leaked Scripps records reveal automated mark-ups for hospital care   latimes.com/business/stor... · Posted by u/mmastrac
handrous · 4 years ago
> This is what happens when the buyer doesn't care what the price is because its not their money and the seller doesn't publish prices to allow comparison.

The norm in most systems (in developed states, anyway) is that the buyer doesn't care what the price is, to at least the same degree that they don't in ours. Yet they're all much cheaper than our system.

derekjdanserl · 4 years ago
That’s right. But the employer-dependent health insurance arrangement in the U.S. was implemented as an alternative to the various political dynamics that regulate most countries’ healthcare systems and it has successfully done so.

The problem, in other words, is that a truly free-market healthcare system would be politically infeasible in a major first-world nation. So instead of a public healthcare system that would provide minimal healthcare services to all citizens, they tied it to employment, effectively moving it from the consumer market to the labor market. So this arrangement, like most neoliberal policies including Obamacare, has served merely to buy more time for the ruling class. And worst of all it has worked.

derekjdanserl commented on Leaked Scripps records reveal automated mark-ups for hospital care   latimes.com/business/stor... · Posted by u/mmastrac
ethbr0 · 4 years ago
> Hospitals make ridiculous profit.

"It depends."

Non-trauma hospitals in affluent areas that perform lots of elective procedures make a lot of profit.

Trauma centers in less-affluent, usually urban or rural, areas that deliver emergency care almost always run at a loss, and are subsidized by city / state / federal funds to maintain capability.

derekjdanserl · 4 years ago
Whether it’s hospitals, hosipital owners, doctors, or other healthcare industry benefactors, someone is making a killing beyond just the insurance companies. Ballooning administration is not only a cause but a symptom, which is why free market solutions can’t overcome the problem. Establishing new healthcare institutions will depend on the existing healthcare industry, which will expect the same profits or it won’t cooperate. There is no way around the fact that free-market healthcare is just deeply immoral and inhumane.
derekjdanserl commented on Why U.S. Infrastructure Costs So Much   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/jseliger
jgoodhcg · 4 years ago
Isn't a trade off for some efficiency worth things like living wages, safety, and quality standards at scale?
derekjdanserl · 4 years ago
Especially since no amount of technology has lessened the amount that most of us (especially those doing these jobs being complained about) still have to work to earn a living.
derekjdanserl commented on Does Georgism work? Is land a big deal?   astralcodexten.substack.c... · Posted by u/feross
nickff · 4 years ago
Those are ten thousand paintings which the public cannot experience or enjoy! In many ways, the paintings are more precious, as they could go on worldwide tours, and be experienced by millions of people; most land has virtually no uniqueness, and cannot be shared.
derekjdanserl · 4 years ago
See: Owning huge amounts of land is uniquely antisocial.

The point here is to maintain a society and some things must come first, namely material things which paintings are not. Of course, art history shows us time and time again the vital importance of material sustenance in creating and preserving works of art. If you really care about art, you have to care about the material foundations that make rich and meaningful social livelihoods possible.

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