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cortic commented on AI Police Reports: Year in Review   eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12... · Posted by u/hn_acker
gilrain · 2 months ago
> the metric of how [the uninformed] generally measure intelligence
cortic · a month ago
How do the informed measure intelligence?

I know I'm too late to ask this question, But I suspect its either; Feelings and intuitions, which is just a primitive IQ test. Or some kind of aptitude test, which is just a different flavor of IQ test.

cortic commented on AI Police Reports: Year in Review   eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12... · Posted by u/hn_acker
gloosx · a month ago
>humans are to a larger degree trained on spacial data

you must be completely LLMheaded to say something like that, lol

humans are not trained on spacial data, they are living in the world. humans are very much diffent from silicone chips, and human learning is on another magnitude of complexity compared to a large language model training

cortic · a month ago
Humans are large language models. Maybe the term language is being used a bit liberally here but we basically function in the same way, with the exception of the spacial aspect of our training data.

If this hurts your ego then just know the dataset that you built your ego with was probably flawed and if you can put that LoRA aside and try to process this logically; Our awareness is a scalable emergent property of 1-2 decades of datasets, looking at how neurons vs transistor groups work, there could only be a limited amount of ways to process these sizes of data down to relevant streams. The very fact that training LLMs on our output works, proves our output is a product of LLMs or there wouldn't be patterns to find.

cortic commented on AI Police Reports: Year in Review   eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12... · Posted by u/hn_acker
gloosx · 2 months ago
>Create a test for intelligence that we can pass better than AI

Easy? The best LLMs score 40% on Butter-Bench [1], while the mean human score is 95%. LLMs struggled the most with multi-step spatial planning and social understanding.

[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.21860v1

cortic · 2 months ago
That is really interesting; Though i suspect its just a effect of differing training data, humans are to a larger degree trained on spacial data, while LLMs are trained to a larger degree on raw information and text.

Still it may be lasting limitation if robotics don't catch up to AI anytime soon.

Don't know what to make of the Safety Risks test, threatening to power down AI in order to manipulate it, and most act like we would and comply. fascinating.

cortic commented on AI Police Reports: Year in Review   eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12... · Posted by u/hn_acker
gilrain · 2 months ago
Where do you imagine they copied those human sensitivities from? The weather?
cortic · 2 months ago
The same place as humans do, other humans.
cortic commented on AI Police Reports: Year in Review   eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12... · Posted by u/hn_acker
vid · 2 months ago
Court reports should as much be about human sensibility. I have met plenty of high IQ people who were insensitive.
cortic · 2 months ago
Having listened to some the new AI generated songs on utube, looks like they might be better at being sensitive humans than we are as well..
cortic commented on AI Police Reports: Year in Review   eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12... · Posted by u/hn_acker
krainboltgreene · 2 months ago
Man, what are we supposed to do with people who think the above?
cortic · 2 months ago
>ChatGPT (o3): Scored 136 on the Mensa Norway IQ test in April 2025

If you don't want to believe it, you need to change the goal posts; Create a test for intelligence that we can pass better than AI.. since AI is also better at creating test than us maybe we could ask AI to do it, hang on..

>Is there a test that in some way measures intelligence, but that humans generally test better than AI?

Answer:Thinking, Something went wrong and an AI response wasn't generated.

Edit, i managed to get one to answer me; the Abstraction and Reasoning Corpus for Artificial General Intelligence (ARC-AGI). Created by AI researcher François Chollet, this test consists of visual puzzles that require inferring a rule from a few examples and applying it to a new situation.

So we do have A test which is specifically designed for us to pass and AI to fail, where we can currently pass better than AI... hurrah we're smarter!

cortic commented on AI Police Reports: Year in Review   eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12... · Posted by u/hn_acker
Marha01 · 2 months ago
> a lot of people seem to see LLMs as smarter than themselves

Well, in many cases they might be right..

cortic · 2 months ago
> ChatGPT (o3): Scored 136 on the Mensa Norway test in April 2025

So yes, most people are right in that assumption, at least by the metric of how we generally measure intelligence.

cortic commented on UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16   alecmuffett.com/article/1... · Posted by u/nvarsj
iamacyborg · 2 months ago
> 12,000 arrests per year

Arrested is not the same thing as being charged. The latter is what would lead to a trial.

> So they are currently trying to get rid of juries, which they will do

Huh

> a leader that has styled himself as a more extreme Nigel Farage

I’m sorry, what?

> The UK is actually a scary place right now

It is?

cortic · 2 months ago
>Huh

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5lxg2l0lqo

>I’m sorry, what?

Take the online protection act for an example, Nigel Farage though it went too far, Keir Starmer wanted to include a ban on VPNs...

>it is?

If you have been paying attention, yes.

cortic commented on UK House of Lords attempting to ban use of VPNs by anyone under 16   alecmuffett.com/article/1... · Posted by u/nvarsj
iLoveOncall · 2 months ago
> The UK is actually a scary place right now, if you are paying attention..

It has been the most authoritarian country in the West for decades already, this is nothing new.

British people are the most apathetic people in the world, so it's really easy to abuse them.

cortic · 2 months ago
>the most authoritarian country in the West

Australia and the US are more authoritarian in specific areas e.g. censorship and taxation respectively.. but overall, yes, the UK is worse.

>British people are the most apathetic

I'm not sure that's fair, our culture looks apathetic from abroad, but like other countries we care deeply about what our media tell us to care about.

u/cortic

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