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computerex commented on Claude Code is being dumbed down? symmetrybreak.ing/blog/cl... · Posted by u/WXLCKNO

computerex · 17 hours ago

Codex has been useless for me on standard Plus plan unfortunately. Actually thoroughly disappointed. And VS code integration is totally broken.

computerex · 12 hours ago

I'm not sure why I'm getting downvoted, but VS Code integration really does stink. Often times it will just simply not send the API request and just say reconnecting and I've had it simply freeze where the VS Code OpenAI Codex plugin has frozen, but all the other plugins like Cline or Roo are working perfectly fine. So the VS Code integration is almost unusable in my experience.

computerex commented on Claude Code is being dumbed down? symmetrybreak.ing/blog/cl... · Posted by u/WXLCKNO

stillpointlab · 21 hours ago

I'm old, so I remember when Skyrim came out. At the time, people were howling about how "dumbed down" the RPG had become compared to previous versions. They had simplified so many systems. Seemed to work out for them overall.

I understand the article writers frustration. He liked a thing about a product he uses and they changed the product. He is feeling angry and he is expressing that anger and others are sharing in that.

And I'm part of another group of people. I would notice the files being searched without too much interest. Since I pay a monthly rate, I don't care about optimizing tokens. I only care about the quality of the final output.

I think the larger issue is that programmers are feeling like we are losing control. At first we're like, I'll let it auto-complete but no more. Then it was, I'll let it scaffold a project but not more. Each step we are ceding ground. It is strange to watch someone finally break on "They removed the names of the files the agent was operating on". Of all of the lost points of control this one seems so trivial. But every camels back has a breaking point and we can't judge the straw that does it.

computerex · 17 hours ago

They have a dedicated product called Co-work for non-technical people. Claude Code is a *coding* tool (it's in the name) and anthropic has made decisions to thoroughly annoy a lot of the users.

computerex commented on Claude Code is being dumbed down? symmetrybreak.ing/blog/cl... · Posted by u/WXLCKNO

Robdel12 · 21 hours ago

I’m a heavy Claude code user and it’s pretty clear they’re starting to bend under their vibe coding. Each Claude code update breaks a ton of stuff, has perf issues, etc.

And then this. They want to own your dev workflow and for some reason believe Claude code is special enough to be closed source. The react TUI is kinda a nightmare to deal with I bet.

I will say, very happy with the improvements made to Codex 5.3. I’ve been spending A LOT more time with codex and the entire agent toolchain is OSS.

Not sure what anthropic’s plan is, but I haven’t been a fan of their moves in the past month and a half.

computerex · 17 hours ago

Codex has been useless for me on standard Plus plan unfortunately. Actually thoroughly disappointed. And VS code integration is totally broken.

computerex commented on Claude Code is being dumbed down? symmetrybreak.ing/blog/cl... · Posted by u/WXLCKNO

johndough · 19 hours ago

DeepSeek had a theoretical profit margin of 545 % [1] with much inferior GPUs at 1/60th the API price.

Anthropic's Opus 4.6 is a bit bigger, but they'd have to be insanely incompetent to not make a profit on inference.

[1] https://github.com/deepseek-ai/open-infra-index/blob/main/20...

computerex · 17 hours ago

American labs trained in a different way than the Chinese labs. They might be making profit on inference but they are burning money otherwise.

computerex commented on How to effectively write quality code with AI heidenstedt.org/posts/202... · Posted by u/i5heu

einpoklum · 6 days ago

The article did not provide a constructive suggestion on how to write quality code, either. Nor even empirical proof in the form of quality code written by LLMs/agents via the application of those principles.

computerex · 6 days ago

Yes it did, it provided 12 things that the author asserts helps produce quality code. Feel free to address the content with something productive.

computerex commented on How to effectively write quality code with AI heidenstedt.org/posts/202... · Posted by u/i5heu

whynotminot · 6 days ago

This is a fading but common sentiment on hacker news.

There’s a lot of engineers who will refuse to wake up to the revolution happening in front of them.

I get it. The denialism is a deeply human response.

computerex · 6 days ago

It's insane! We are so far beyond gpt-3.5 and gpt-4. If you're not approaching Claude Code and other agentic coding agents with an open mind with the goal of deriving as much value from them as possible, you are missing out on super powers.

On the flip side, anyone who believes you can create quality products with these tools without actually working hard is also deluded. My productivity is insane, what I can create in a long coding session is incredible, but I am working hard the whole time, reviewing outputs, devising GOOD integration/e2e tests to actually test the system, manually testing the whole time, keeping my eyes open for stereotypically bad model behaviors like creating fallbacks, deleting code to fulfill some objective.

It's actually downright a pain in the ass and a very unpleasant experience working in this way. I remember the sheer flow state I used to get into when doing deep programming where you are so immersed in managing the states and modeling the system. The current way of programming for me doesn't seem to provide that with the models. So there are aspects of how I have programmed my whole life that I dearly miss. Hours used to fly past me without me being the wiser due to flow. Now that's no longer the case most of the times.

computerex commented on How to effectively write quality code with AI heidenstedt.org/posts/202... · Posted by u/i5heu

einpoklum · 6 days ago

That sounds like the advice of someone who doesn't actually write high-quality code. Perhaps a better title would be "how to get something better than pure slop when letting a chatbot code for you" - and then it's not bad advice I suppose. I would still avoid such code if I can help it at all.

computerex · 6 days ago

Can you be specific? You didn't provide any constructive feedback, whatsoever.

computerex commented on The Missing Layer yagmin.com/blog/the-missi... · Posted by u/lubujackson

lubujackson · 7 days ago

I am not against vibe coding at all, I just don't think people understand how shaky the foundation is. Software wants to be modified. With enough modifications the disconnect between the code as it is imagined and the code in reality becomes too arduous of a distance to bridge.

The current solution is to simply reroll the whole project and let the LLM rebuild everything with new knowledge. This is fine until you have real data, users and processes built on top of your project.

Maybe you can get away with doing that for a while, but tech debt needs to be paid down one way or another. Either someone makes sense of the code, or you build so much natural language scaffolding to keep the ship afloat that you end up putting in more human effort than just having someone codify it.

We are definitely headed toward a future where we have lots of these Frankenstein projects in the wild, pulling down millions in ARR but teetering in the breeze. You can definitely do this, but "a codebase always pays its debts."

computerex · 7 days ago

This hasn’t been my experience at all working on production code bases with LLMs. What you are describing is how it was more like in gpt 3.5 era.

computerex commented on We tasked Opus 4.6 using agent teams to build a C Compiler anthropic.com/engineering... · Posted by u/modeless

jbjbjbjb · 7 days ago

It’s cool but there’s a good chance it’s just copying someone else’s homework albeit in an elaborate round about way.

computerex · 7 days ago

And the goal post shifts.