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clacker-o-matic · 2 months ago
this has got to be one of the coolest power generation things i've seen recently; just from the fact that it bobs up and down and looks so insanely interesting. really curious what the power output of this test was though
clacker-o-matic commented on Show HN: Sodalite – Open Source Anonymous Media Downloader   sodalite.otter.llc/... · Posted by u/oter
clacker-o-matic · 2 months ago
oooh yay! you launched it! i particularly love that you allow selecting media quality :)
clacker-o-matic commented on SSHTron: A multiplayer lightcycle game that runs through SSH   github.com/zachlatta/ssht... · Posted by u/thunderbong
XiZhao · 3 months ago
This was created by Zach Latta, who runs an awesome non profit called Hack Club that produces some of the top high school technical talent through community coding clubs. Highly encourage you donate to Hack Club!
clacker-o-matic · 3 months ago
Hack Club is amazing! I've gotten so many amazing opportunities to build stuff and help out with events. I got to build and run waka.hackclub.com (selfhosted wakatime backend) and at its peak we got over 21 thousand kids tracking over a quarter million hours in the software i built. Crazy experience. Getting to talk and interact with other techy teens is the best part about it though; we have a massive slack which generates the best techy conversations I typically have on a day to day basis.

[source i'm a teenager in hackclub]

clacker-o-matic commented on Show HN: Hacker News historic upvote and score data   hn.dunkirk.sh/... · Posted by u/clacker-o-matic
jmyeet · 3 months ago
The problem with analyzing HN comment and submission voting is we don't (AFAIK) have access to downvotes and that changes everything. We used to know the net votes for comments but that was removed years ago. Only submissions have net votes.

But what you find is that position matters, both for submissions and comments. There's a world of difference between being on the front page or not and being on the first page of cvomments (nad the higher on that page the better) for getting eyeballs (because people only scroll so far) and thus votes.

I mention this because both submissions and comments are heavily curated. It's more obvious with submissions where one post can stick around for 12 hours with 30 net votes on the front page while another will disappear within 15 minutes with 200+. Part of this is known. For example, the moderation team tends to dislike "political" submissions. I put that in quotes because what is and isn't "political" can be open to interpretation. Often on the Internet in general something is "political" if you don't agree with it and it's not if you are. You might even hear descriptions like "common sense" about the latter.

Comments are heavily curated too. Some of this is just rotating the top comments for freshness. Some of it is some sort of commenter rating where their comments will tend to be ranked high or low when fresh. And some of it is simply downranking certain comments.

On Reddit this would all be both more transparent and easier to visualize and analyze because we could sort by different critera, we could see total votes and we could see up/down vote breakdowns.

To be clear, no shade to the moderation team here. Just observing what happens.

One side note: I believe Shipwrecked isn't you but as a general observation to anyone, it reverses the mousewheel direction. Don't mess with scrolling.

Good work here. Just a few comments about your graph:

1. This may be personal preference but I would find the chart more reasonable if there was a horizonal line for where the cursor is. The way you have it, it feels a bit "disconnected" but maybe that's just me. I'm thinking of, say, how Google Finance does their charts;

2. You can probably compact the header into a single row/line;

3. I'm visually impaired and would like more contrast in the colours used accessibility-wise;

4. You have the submitter's name. That could be a link to their profilee;

5. This may just be preference but the tooltip feels "off" to me. This may be related to the above point about not having a line for the cursor maybe? But also the dark background doesn't seem to fit. Maybe it's the color too. I could just be nit-picking here;

6. Show number of comments maybe?

And the dashboard:

1. The cards themselves have a lot of wasted space. Again, you could link to the profile in them;

2. If you're scrolled down the page, when you click on a card you don't see the graph;

3. There's no hover over effects on the dashboard graphs. There easily could be I suspect;

4. I'm not sure a graph for raw score makes sense. It can only go up. Maybe show how many upvotes gained in that period?

5. The legend has different styling on the dashboard graph for some reason;

6. If you scroll down, click a card then scroll up you see the graph but you can't see what submission it belongs to. Maybe put some indicator on the graph or rethink how the layout works in general so you can see both the graph and selected card at the same time regardles of scrolling.

Anyway, good work.

clacker-o-matic · 3 months ago
took me 3 days but I got all of that implemented! the graph for raw score was more to see rate of score vs position on the page but upvotes gained kinda makes sense (probably not going to change for now since I love the pretty slopes). I spent quite a while tweaking all the colors to meet or exceed the webaim accessibility contrast ratios so hopefully thats better :)
clacker-o-matic commented on Show HN: Hacker News historic upvote and score data   hn.dunkirk.sh/... · Posted by u/clacker-o-matic
tokai · 3 months ago
10 months is definitely not a while in my book.
clacker-o-matic · 3 months ago
yeah i only made an account and started commenting here a bit ago; i've been silently reading for far longer
clacker-o-matic commented on Show HN: Hacker News historic upvote and score data   hn.dunkirk.sh/... · Posted by u/clacker-o-matic
zX41ZdbW · 3 months ago
I'm also collecting this data, and it allows rendering beautiful heatmaps like here: https://github.com/ClickHouse/ClickHouse/issues/59020

Try: ssh play@play.clickhouse.com

    SELECT id, max(score) AS s, max(descendants), argMax(title, update_time), arrayStringConcat(arrayMap(x -> format('\x1b[38;2;{0};{1};{2}m\xE2\x96\x88\x1b[0m', least(greatest(sqrt(x / 10) * 255, 0), 255)::UInt8::String, least(greatest(sqrt((x - 10) / 50) * 255, 0), 255)::UInt8::String, least(greatest(sqrt((x - 50) / 250) * 255, 0), 255)::UInt8::String), arrayDifference(arrayFill(x -> x != 0, maxResample(now() - INTERVAL 2 DAY, now(), 3600)(score, update_time))))) AS bar FROM hackernews_changes_items WHERE id IN (SELECT arrayJoin(ids) FROM (SELECT ids FROM hackernews_top WHERE type = 'top' ORDER BY update_time DESC LIMIT 1)) GROUP BY id ORDER BY s DESC LIMIT 10

clacker-o-matic · 3 months ago
i'm actually pretty sure I remember you from a few months back. didn't you post this then? if not i might have seen it in a comment or smthing
clacker-o-matic commented on Show HN: Hacker News historic upvote and score data   hn.dunkirk.sh/... · Posted by u/clacker-o-matic
jmyeet · 3 months ago
The problem with analyzing HN comment and submission voting is we don't (AFAIK) have access to downvotes and that changes everything. We used to know the net votes for comments but that was removed years ago. Only submissions have net votes.

But what you find is that position matters, both for submissions and comments. There's a world of difference between being on the front page or not and being on the first page of cvomments (nad the higher on that page the better) for getting eyeballs (because people only scroll so far) and thus votes.

I mention this because both submissions and comments are heavily curated. It's more obvious with submissions where one post can stick around for 12 hours with 30 net votes on the front page while another will disappear within 15 minutes with 200+. Part of this is known. For example, the moderation team tends to dislike "political" submissions. I put that in quotes because what is and isn't "political" can be open to interpretation. Often on the Internet in general something is "political" if you don't agree with it and it's not if you are. You might even hear descriptions like "common sense" about the latter.

Comments are heavily curated too. Some of this is just rotating the top comments for freshness. Some of it is some sort of commenter rating where their comments will tend to be ranked high or low when fresh. And some of it is simply downranking certain comments.

On Reddit this would all be both more transparent and easier to visualize and analyze because we could sort by different critera, we could see total votes and we could see up/down vote breakdowns.

To be clear, no shade to the moderation team here. Just observing what happens.

One side note: I believe Shipwrecked isn't you but as a general observation to anyone, it reverses the mousewheel direction. Don't mess with scrolling.

Good work here. Just a few comments about your graph:

1. This may be personal preference but I would find the chart more reasonable if there was a horizonal line for where the cursor is. The way you have it, it feels a bit "disconnected" but maybe that's just me. I'm thinking of, say, how Google Finance does their charts;

2. You can probably compact the header into a single row/line;

3. I'm visually impaired and would like more contrast in the colours used accessibility-wise;

4. You have the submitter's name. That could be a link to their profilee;

5. This may just be preference but the tooltip feels "off" to me. This may be related to the above point about not having a line for the cursor maybe? But also the dark background doesn't seem to fit. Maybe it's the color too. I could just be nit-picking here;

6. Show number of comments maybe?

And the dashboard:

1. The cards themselves have a lot of wasted space. Again, you could link to the profile in them;

2. If you're scrolled down the page, when you click on a card you don't see the graph;

3. There's no hover over effects on the dashboard graphs. There easily could be I suspect;

4. I'm not sure a graph for raw score makes sense. It can only go up. Maybe show how many upvotes gained in that period?

5. The legend has different styling on the dashboard graph for some reason;

6. If you scroll down, click a card then scroll up you see the graph but you can't see what submission it belongs to. Maybe put some indicator on the graph or rethink how the layout works in general so you can see both the graph and selected card at the same time regardles of scrolling.

Anyway, good work.

clacker-o-matic · 3 months ago
thats some amazing feedback! i'll try to implement that tonight. Agree with you on the scrolling for sure; I know the people that made the website so i'll pass that on to them :)
clacker-o-matic commented on Show HN: Hacker News historic upvote and score data   hn.dunkirk.sh/... · Posted by u/clacker-o-matic
ChrisMarshallNY · 3 months ago
> Highest Points 461 Most upvoted story

Not sure that's accurate. If you look at just yesterday, you have this story: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44163063

Which has over 2200 points.

clacker-o-matic · 3 months ago
its highest out of the current data from the front page

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