> YouTube did not respond to the BBC's questions about whether users will be given a choice about AI tweaking their videos.
Says everything. Hey PM at YouTube: How about you think stuff through before even starting to waste time on stuff like this?
Readit Newschinathrow commented on AI Friend Apps Are Destroying What's Left of Society currentaffairs.org/news/a... · Posted by u/florisuga
This is merely a symptom. The emergence of overwhelmingly powerful and addictive social media apps almost perfectly correlates with this trend of loneliness.
Here's the cancer - oh and here's the cure too.
chinathrow commented on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network · Posted by u/HoyaSaxa
361 points within 5 hours, 112 comments but off the frontpage. Why @dang?
chinathrow commented on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network · Posted by u/HoyaSaxa
Notion doesn't like making things opt-in.
A feature that's opt-in will get like 1% of the use of a feature that's opt-out. A happier middle ground would be to enable by default and show a "I don't like this, pls turn it off" button the first few times.
EDIT: shouldn't single out any specific role here. We think opt-out, enable-by-default makes a feature have far greater total utility. But we could do more to provide user agency for these features in-line during first use or find a different balance point.
Your new feature is privacy invading. It's none of your business to detect if someones mic is on unless they invite you to do that.
What is so hard about that?
> Our PMs don't like making things opt-in.
Lamest excuse ever.
I wouldn't be surprised if you phoned back home about that mic activation - do you?
I recently joined an org where Notion is in use - I will actively lobby them to not install the desktop app, at all or to quit Notion alltogether.
chinathrow commented on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network · Posted by u/HoyaSaxa
To elaborate:
The Notion desktop app will observe if there is a process running on your computer that is actively using your microphone, such as Zoom.
Notion does not and cannot listen to the audio coming from your microphone ambiently or snoop on the signal received by another application. This detection is done purely based on the existing of a process using your microphone, not on the audio coming from the microphone. Users can verify this because the OS-level microphone indicator will show that Notion is not listening to their microphone.
If one is detected, Notion will notify the user and try to associate it with a calendar event if you have connected your calendar. Connecting your calendar is not a requirement to receive this notification.
Users can disable this behavior via their account settings in Settings > Notifications > Desktop meeting detection notifications.
Only when the user has started a meeting note and clicked record, will Notion activate the user's microphone. We cannot do this without operating system mediated consent dialog, which is the way it should be! At this point Notion will show up as using the microphone in the OS indicators.
(I work at Notion)
Make it opt-in and this would be not an issue.
chinathrow commented on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network · Posted by u/HoyaSaxa
Hey!
1. Notion records audio only during your use of the Meeting Notes feature. Here are the docs: https://www.notion.com/help/ai-meeting-notes
2. Notion desktop app has notifications about meetings that ask you if you want to use Meeting Notes, it recognizes this by detecting that your microphone is on (i.e. it does not listen to audio coming from your microphone). This feature is a setting in preferences btw, under Notifications > Desktop meeting detection notification.
source: I work for Notion
From 1)
> If you do not want the AI Meeting Notes feature available to your users, administrators may opt-out their workspace at any time via the toggle available in their console.
Here's your problem: Make this opt-in.
chinathrow commented on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network · Posted by u/HoyaSaxa
This is unethical and creepy behavior - Notion team reading this: How exactly did you come up with this?
Air conditioning is powered by bleed air from the engines (or the APU or a ground source). The APU wouldn't be running during any normal flight, it's normally only ever used on the ground when the engines are off and there's no external power source.
So I am not sure what you are trying to say here, sorry.
> There is a video circulating that the air con was off on the previous flight
... on the ground - sorry I forgot to add that.
chinathrow commented on Start your own Internet Resiliency Club bowshock.nl/irc/... · Posted by u/todsacerdoti
For a more baby-steps approach to resiliency, one might start running software on less-virtualized computers, creating a small home-lab, running software on bare-metal hardware that you actually own.
Many people already do that (e.g. I use Linux on a Laptop- I consider this bare-metal).
The way I read this, it's more about what is needed to get services back up after a large scale loss of critical infrastructure: communication to other network/internet/infrastructure professionals.
Is this a known enshittification issue at Logitech?